Democratic landslide victory to be announced November third

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  1. Pooch says:

    https://rairfoundation.com/threat-shut-down-dc-releases-target-maps-to-confront-trumps-campaign-officials-and-supporters-at-home/

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1322006737126363138?s=20

    Antifa’s color revolution plans for the election have leaked and meetings have been infiltrated apparently. Seems like they are banking on significant support from federal employees and threatening anyone who calls the election until “all votes are counted”. Also, the people planning it predictably look like all pathetic fags and childless women from the video.

  2. Yul Bornhold says:

    Jim, you made this comment on wuflu:

    “…it was already apparent China Flu was just another flu, slightly worse than recent flues, but following the same pattern as its many close relatives…”

    The worst season of ordinary flu in the past ten years killed 61K. Current score for China flu is 231K. I haven’t personally noticed 0.0007% of my acquaintances dying of cough but it would be easy to overlook so few. We arrived at this rather larger number of deaths *despite* the spring lockdown and the subsequent widespread adoption of masks. If wuflu is seasonal, we haven’t yet experienced it at its strong point either.

    I don’t think it beyond reason to think that the China flu could be worse than it has shown itself to be.

    • Pooch says:

      61k is likely massively undercounted (no one really counted flu deaths until this year). 231k is massively overcounted not to mention Democrats forced sick people into retirement homes to pad the deaths. Notice deaths are significantly lower and near zero now that has Trump has gained control of the death counting yet the Cathedral keeps screeching that increased cases. They gave up on deaths and focus only on cases now. Death rate of infected is about the same as most flus. All cause US deaths shows a slight increase over past years when you account for population growth.

      China flu is a bad flu but no where near the worst flu.

      • Yul Bornhold says:

        “61k is likely massively undercounted”

        Interesting assumption. I’m inclined to assume the opposite because of vaccination holiness spirals: progressives making a big deal out of flu deaths to signal how much smarter they are than the dumb antivaxxers.

        Nor does it seem likely democrats “forced sick people into retirement homes to pad the deaths” so much as they were simply too dumb to foresee predictable results, not unlike the diversity bridges that can’t keep from falling over.

        The CDC has been estimating flu deaths for at least ten years: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/images/about/burden/influenza-burden-chart2-960px.jpg

        This year’s estimate comes out to 22k, not 61k.

        “Notice deaths are significantly lower and near zero now that has Trump has gained control of the death counting yet the Cathedral keeps screeching that increased cases.”

        That’s one possible explanation. Other two possible explanations are that our precautions have had an effect or that wuflu exerts seasonal influence. You neglected to address either of these. Perhaps you overlooked them in my original post. How do you seize on one possible explanation and *know* that it’s true?

        “Death rate of infected is about the same as most flus.”

        9065k cases to 231k deaths. That’s 2.5% mortality of all infected. Too high of a number, in this case, since it didn’t kill this many in Spain or Italy, where it seemed to hover around 1%. Either way, demonstrably worse than ordinary flu.

        “All cause US deaths shows a slight increase over past years when you account for population growth. ”

        Yes, altogether it hasn’t been that bad. My argument is that there’s reasonable reason for thinking it might.

        • jim says:

          > Nor does it seem likely democrats “forced sick people into retirement homes to pad the deaths” so much as they were simply too dumb to foresee predictable results, not unlike the diversity bridges that can’t keep from falling over.

          And your explanation of why Trump’s hospital and quarantine ship remained completely empty?

          I don’t think they were trying to pad the deaths. I think they were making human sacrifices to their demons, as with the California Wildfires.

          • Yul Bornhold says:

            “And your explanation of why Trump’s hospital and quarantine ship remained completely empty?”

            Refusal to do acknowledge anything that would make Trump look competent. Recall the president’s offer of National Guard to suppress riots. Democratic governors and mayors didn’t want them. Did they *want* their cities to burn down or did they believe their own lies about peaceful protests? I’m not sure. That’s a hard thing to know. The effect, in contrast, is clear.

            Come to think of it, I do have a vague recollection of a Pennsylvania tranny commissar admitting to deliberately seeding infected among the elderly. Perhaps the stupidity explanation seems probable because I don’t *want* to believe in deliberate human sacrifices.

          • BC says:

            I don’t think they were trying to pad the deaths. I think they were making human sacrifices to their demons, as with the California Wildfires.

            This seems likely. Even Sweden which had every instinctive not to pad the numbers given their policy intentionally murdered the elderly in nursing homes.

        • Pooch says:

          Lockdown shill spotted. Your, sir, are a leftist.

          • Yul Bornhold says:

            Where I come from, evolutionary theory is a leftist belief. All sorts of not particularly intelligent people crow about how much cleverer they are than the dumb young earth creationists. If I went back there and described Jim’s beliefs, they would call me a leftist shill.

            That’s twice now, by the way, you’ve entirely ignored my written points in favor of telling me what I supposedly said.

            I don’t know whether lockdown is a worthwhile policy. Not to dox myself, but it’s not my decision. The best policy would efficient contact tracing, vigorously enforced quarantine and restrictions on international travel, as Jim said, but I suspect that’s beyond our ability, just as we can’t build skyscrapers as high as we once did. The only places capable of this are a few prosperous oriental states.

            Your position is founded on a gut-rejection of anything embraced by Yale. This is generally an excellent method of determining truth but, sometimes, Yale gets things half right. Evolution, for example, though they subscribe to a curious version wherein mutation affects all human brains in tandem.

            • Pooch says:

              We know lockdown is not a worthwhile policy. Maybe you missed Jim’s comment below:

              “There is no significant difference between places that used lockdown and places that did not.”

            • jim says:

              > Where I come from, evolutionary theory is a leftist belief. All sorts of not particularly intelligent people crow about how much cleverer they are than the dumb young earth creationist

              As you remarked, leftists do not in fact accept evolution.

              On the right, there is a correlation between the blue pill and young earth creationism. And the blue pill is leftist. The Dark Enlightenment is red pilled.

              This not logically necessary – after all, before Lyell and Darwin, anyone with half a brain was a red pilled young earth creationist, but empirically, under today’s environment, there is a good correlation. Probably because Game does not make much sense except in the light of Evolutionary Game Theory. Hard to see what is in front of your face if you cannot believe what is in front of your face.

              • Yul Bornhold says:

                I acknowledged that with “sometimes, Yale gets things half right.”

                Where I come from is conservative yesterday’s leftism. Not a new topic. My point is that (a) very hard to be 100% wrong about everything and (b) wuflu hysteria is another opportunity for leftists to crow about how much smarter they are than the right. If President Trump had, in January or February, responded to China flu with the same measures as they now support, they would be telling us to this day how it’s no big deal.

                Assessment of truth is tribal. You are very likely to adopt your tribe’s view on any issue it considers important.

                The only part of evolutionary theory that applies to an ordinary person’s life is evopsych, which is the part leftists excised. Evopsych is in agreement, or near agreement, with traditional patriarchal religion. In my case, was easy to accept game because I quickly realized it taught the same as holy scripture. In retrospect, all the supposed equality between men and women was obvious torture of the text and spirit of the text.

                • BC says:

                  Leftists recently got rid of Sexual Selection as well. Bringing up the subject causing the same reactions as holding up a Crufix in front of Hillary Clinton.

              • Strannik says:

                Well Jim, I hate to say it, but you lost me there. I’m no Leftist, and I’m a young earth Creationist. I didn’t come to my reactionary thinking by any other mode than being true to what was taught always, everywhere, and by all, before this God-forsaking modern era.

                Darwin and Lyell weren’t scientists; they were convinced ”a priori” of evolution (Erasmus Darwin Charles’s grandfather was an evolutionist) before they came upon certain ideas and shoe-horned the evidence to fit their theories of evolution and uniformitarian geology, and together it became a closed circle of circular reasoning; ”the geology proves evolution and evolution proves the geology”.

                Sure, it takes a leap of faith to believe otherwise, but if it wasn’t a leap, it wouldn’t be faith now would it?

                Although evidence of cataclysm is there to see if you just look…

                ”Game” and natural selection are conservative mechanisms which make perfect sense in this fallen world, without recourse to evolutionary theory. But if people don’t get their heads out of their asses on this modern excess of materialist rationalism and practical agnosticism on matters of faith, reaction will never reach the hearts of people, and the heart has reasons all it’s own far superior to our feeble reasoning.

                So I’ve said my part I felt had to be said, and i’ll say no more about it.

                • jim says:

                  > “Game” and natural selection are conservative mechanisms which make perfect sense in this fallen world, without recourse to evolutionary theory.

                  Indeed they do – that is the story of Genesis. But there is a tendency for young earth creationists to perceive the red pill as false, or as morally wicked.

                  Game is a sword that can be used for good or evil. The age of the earth should not matter politically, provided people don’t read the blue pill into genesis, and a sane and healthy religion should not make an issue of it. That is why we speak of Gnon, to silence such unprofitable arguments. Gnon punishes sin in this world through material and effective causation. Sinners often flourish like a green bay tree, but when they do, you soon have rather too many sinners, and a group of sinners does not flourish.

                  But I myself, with my pickaxe, walked in Lyell’s footsteps, and have verified that the earth is very old.

                • BC says:

                  Jim, I’ve had some issues arguing with young earth creationists. I’m not trying to destroy their faith, just expand it more towards reality. Got any suggestions?

                • jim says:

                  It really does not matter, unless they are blue pilled. Which they sometimes are.

                  A sane and healthy religion should not be concerned with how old the earth is, one way or the other.

              • TammyFan says:

                Think of the days of creation in Genesis as geologic eras. KJV 2 Peter 3:8 “But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”

            • R7 Rocket says:

              @Yul Bornhold

              “Where I come from, evolutionary theory is a leftist belief. All sorts of not particularly intelligent people crow about how much cleverer they are than the dumb young earth creationists. If I went back there and described Jim’s beliefs, they would call me a leftist shill.”

              You most definitely do not come from that area. I live in such an area, and nobody believes any of the bullshit COVID19 propaganda.

              • Yul Bornhold says:

                Possibilities:

                (a) I’m lying.

                (b) I’m not there anymore.

                (c) “Where I come from” means the sub-group I was raised in, not a geographic area.

                (d) A handful of people in the area you live in do believe wuflu propaganda but don’t say so because local low status.

                (e) Something else.

                Your problem is that the only *possibility* you can conceive is (a).

        • The Cominator says:

          Commie.

          • Pooch says:

            By the way, saw the negro mayor of Chicago re-implement lockdowns. Lockdowns aren’t magically going away if Biden wins and will probably actually get worse.

            • BC says:

              They are going to lock down this country until we beg for command socialism if Biden is installed. Elon is probably already prepping to move to Russia or China just in case.

    • jim says:

      There is no significant difference between places that used lockdown and places that did not.

      There is a massive difference between places that have efficient contact tracing, vigorously enforced quarantine, and restrictions on international travel and places that do not.

      • Not Tom says:

        Right, I had the same thought. I don’t understand exactly why, and I don’t think anyone understands exactly why, but with so many countries bringing their own policies and data, we effectively have the results of one massive controlled experiment, any there is now very clear evidence that lockdowns make little to no difference and masks only make a difference in extended close contact situations.

        This was ultimately why I flipped completely on U.S. policy despite our total inability to do proper contact tracing. Contact tracing works, and probably works because of super spreaders – not super spreader “events”, as leftists constantly and incorrectly label it, but super spreader individuals which is what the research they cite actually finds. Contact tracing probably gets super spreaders quarantined early while these soft lockdowns actually don’t – and we’d never survive a year-long hard lockdown. The soft lockdowns apparently are effective against actual flu, because flu infections and flu deaths have almost totally disappeared, but no one wants to lock down to avoid flu.

        It looks like lethality is about 4x the seasonal flu, which is kind of severe given how effectively it spreads, but hardly a world-ender. People are susceptible to fear rhetoric, but if you actually asked people logically, would you rather have to wear a stupid paper mask everywhere and have thousands of businesses and some entire industries shut down, or take a 50% chance of getting a virus that has a 99.75% chance of survival and 80% chance of no symptoms at all? Most people, even shitlibs, would choose the virus if they actually understood the choice to be made.

        Cochran pointed out, and Cochran is correct, that viruses do not always mutate to become more benign; they can evolve into much deadlier forms if the mutations that make them deadlier also make them more infectious. However, it does not appear that Covid is one of them. It’s following the more well-trodden viral evolution path of “ubiquitous nuisance”. It’s really not worth worrying about at this point. It kinda sucks, but we’re near herd immunity in many places and the lockdowns, to the extent they’re even still obeyed, are just stupid and political.

        • Yul Bornhold says:

          Cochran thinks we’re nowhere near herd immunity and he thinks it much more dangerous than you describe. I hold my position on wuflu mostly because I trust him. He’s a fellow who doesn’t buy into human equality, so not a communist, and he’s exceedingly clever. A bit insufferable about it but unlike most such people, he’s right about his own intelligence.

          In a way, Cochran’s my canary. If he accepts the wuflu tests as accurate, I’ll take it. Like everyone else, I’m basically believing what I want to believe, filtered through my choice of expert but he has some claim to the title. The ideal way to do this would be to conduct my own experiments but I’m not in a position to round up a few thousand twins, equip half of them with masks and attempt infecting them in various indoor/outdoor settings.

          • BC says:

            Infection rates are way up, but deaths, even the inflated death rates world wide are holding steady. That indicates that COVID isn’t very dangerous at this point.

            • Pooch says:

              And testing is way up. This indicates it was never really that deadly (asymptotic cases weren’t being reported as they are now)

              • Yul Bornhold says:

                Cochran summary:

                The virus entirely burnt through a few small towns in Italy and Spain where the infection arrived early. Total death rate in these areas ~1%. Antigenic testing suggests 60-70% infected, including many asymptomatic. 60-70% is herd immunity.

                • R7 Rocket says:

                  @Yul Bornhold
                  The death reports from Spain and Italy were fake, as noted by the fact that the propagandists had to recycle stock coffin images from 2014.

                • Mike says:

                  >The death reports from Spain and Italy were fake, as noted by the fact that the propagandists had to recycle stock coffin images from 2014.

                  Even Jim admitted it was worse in Italy than almost anywhere else in the world, even if that was mostly due to ventilator mania and the extreme age of much of Italy’s population. Stop pretending the virus somehow didn’t exist there.

                • Not Tom says:

                  Other people are being dogmatic on this issue but let me try to explain from the point of view of a “Covid moderate”.

                  Trump is old and overweight, theoretically in the extremely high risk group for Covid, yet he was back on his feet within a couple of days. It’s completely believable to me that the IFR was 1%, over 6 months ago and in some parts of the world. However, viruses change, treatments change, and in the hardest-hit areas, demographics may change due to the virus itself (i.e. killing off many old people).

                  Things that have changed since May timeframe, when Cochran was writing this stuff:

                  1. Testing is far more accurate. They still produce some false positives, but early tests were a joke.

                  2. Treatment options have become much better. No more waiting until someone’s on their deathbed and then killing them slowly with a ventilator. The entire medical community has accepted the once-fringe doctrine of supplemental oxygen, zinc, HCQ (in some places, when caught early) and Remdesivir (in other places and more severe cases). There are also newer experimental treatments becoming available; look at what they gave Trump, all of it is technically available to anyone who can afford it.

                  3. We know of the existence of super spreaders (people, not gatherings). Loath as I am to admit it, the mask mandates probably limit the damage they can do – contact tracing would be much better, of course, but the masks are a distant second place, especially in extended close contact situations such as a plane ride.

                  4. Lockdowns have already practically ended in many areas even if they haven’t officially ended, and while this shows the expected increase in cases, there’s no increase in excess deaths. This tells us that either the Italian numbers were an aberration (aging population, perhaps?) or that the virus has mutated into a less deadly form. We know for certain that it has mutated because there has been genetic analysis mapping the mutations, but only practical experience can tell us whether the mutations are more or less dangerous. Cochran was addressing the possibilities back in May, but we are no longer looking at worst-case scenarios because the “first wave” is already over.

                  5. Even the “experts”, such as the WHO, are coming around to the fact that extended lockdowns themselves are inducing exactly the problems that they are supposed to prevent (remind you of anything?). People are becoming overweight, vitamin deficient, depressed, developing weird allergies, all of the factors that come with being stuck mostly indoors and alone. Like everything else driven by the left, the consequences of the intervention are never considered, only whatever the intervention is supposed to fix. But we need to consider not only the economic consequences, but the direct health consequences.

                  6. As I mentioned earlier, the lockdowns simply aren’t an effective countermeasure. We can debate all we want about how dangerous the virus is or isn’t, but none of that really matters if we can’t actually stop it. Masks are somewhat (not very) effective, much more effective is contact tracing, and… that’s it. Those are our options. If lockdowns don’t work for containment, then they are political and not medical, end of story.

                  You can believe every data point released by every government and hospital and still accept all of the above. Just don’t believe the trash you read in legacy media about a “second wave”, which is either not happening at all or is completely benign.

          • jim says:

            > Cochran thinks we’re nowhere near herd immunity and he thinks it much more dangerous than you describe

            Cochran’s political correctness blinds him to no end of things.

            China Flu grew by a factor of ten every ten days everywhere, until it stopped. What stopped it?

            Second wave cases are testing related. Second wave deaths are lockdown related. Continuing excess deaths are due to lockdown, and some of the deaths are, on ever thinner grounds, blamed on China Flu. No lockdown, no excess deaths in the second wave.

            China flu had its run, and now it is done.

          • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

            > Cochran thinks we’re nowhere near herd immunity and he thinks it much more dangerous than you describe. … he’s exceedingly clever.

            I’m from the same quantitative/analytical stratum Cochran supposedly occupies, and I stopped taking him seriously when he continued with the COVID hype.

            You will notice there are few formulas on his blog. I think he went as far as posting the breeder’s equation and cribbing formulas from simple epidemiology models of virus spread. It’s true that most of the world is run by simple arithmetic most of the time, but this virus thing has a few more degrees of freedom that have to be taken into account.

            As I wrote here some months ago, and was subsequently demonstrated in the Covid modeling literature, models with a constant number as a “rate” of virulence or lethality are misleading and overly pessimistic. The rates etc are actually probability distributions that EVOLVE toward less danger, faster than the virus can evolve (so “evolution toward safety” on a medium timescale is largely the population characteristics changing, and the virus evolution meme is overblown. Yes, this also applies to the Moldbug meme of political viruses.)

            The later waves are less and less worrisome, in addition to the medical care improving week by week.

    • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

      It’s not 231K “from” the virus, be serious. Virtually all of flus and all similar respiratory illnesses, all other coronaviruses, all false positives from the ridiculous number of PCR cycles (est. 94%), all of whatever in people who happen to die for any reason, are counted as COVID19 if in any way connectable on paper to the virus. All-cause deaths per week are *lower* recently than a year ago despite this world-ending pandemic requiring massive lockdowns.

      Whatever the number, we arrived at it with or without the masks and lockdowns, neither of which have much effect on virus dynamics except to slow it slightly, speed up or retard the drop in virulence is unclear, and make the cold weather wave worse because of immunity not developed in the spring and summer. Segregating old people and opening their windows is about the extent of what significantly affects the death rate.

      What has happened and will continue to happen (though less often after the first wave) is lethally sick old people being “mortality accelerated” by a few weeks or months, plus 100K or so deaths accelerated by a lot more than that from the lockdown: suicides, untreated illnesses from missed appointments, etc. Elderly sick people in my family are being fucked by the lockdown and not getting more than collective Zoom calls as medical care. That causes early death statistically.

      • jim says:

        Old guy with a drinking problem no longer sees his grandchildren. Drinks more. Dies. Corona Virus and second wave excess death.

        • Pooch says:

          Lockdown shills are crypto-leftists and should be treated as such.

          • The Cominator says:

            I’m not sure they are all that crypto about it…

            Leftists of the progressive type (Bolsheviks of the old type could actually be clever) are very very bad at hiding their belief system.

        • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

          Lockdown compromises the health of 10-millions of old people, increasing the death rate in those who end up catching or testing positive for COVD19 = tens of thousands of deaths added to the corona number but actually caused by lockdown. That are then used to support more lockdown.

          It’s Poz all the way down.

    • R7 Rocket says:

      @Yul Bornhold

      The COVID19 death numbers are fake and gay.

      • Yul Bornhold says:

        Not implausible.

        The question is, once again, how would you know? Look, here’s Omar:

        “Virtually all of flus and all similar respiratory illnesses, all other coronaviruses, all false positives from the ridiculous number of PCR cycles (est. 94%), all of whatever in people who happen to die for any reason, are counted as COVID19 if in any way connectable on paper to the virus. All-cause deaths per week are *lower* recently than a year ago despite this world-ending pandemic requiring massive lockdowns.”

        Lot of data claims there. How does he know any of them are true? Simple, he’s decided wuflu is a big fake and has therefore marked all purported information that contradicts the wuflu narrative as automatically true. That’s… not a great method of evaluating truth claims.

        Not that I have a better one. A while back, Jim said the best we have is anecdote but if you’re going to compare China flu to ordinary flu, those numbers are questionable as well, due to antivaxx hysteria.

        • The Cominator says:

          All data not from South Korea or Japan is either fake and gay or inaccurate commie.

          • Yul Bornhold says:

            Japan: Cases – 99,622 ; Deaths – 1,744 ; 1.8% fatality

            South Korea: Cases – 26,385 ; Deaths – 463 ; 1.8% fatality

            • BC says:

              Japan was finding antibody levels of 43% in Tokyo in random samplings. Meaning that at least half the population got it but never got bad enough to need testing.

        • R7 Rocket says:

          @Yul Bornhold
          The public health bureaucrats were caught falsifying the death numbers (ex. counting motorcycle crash deaths as COVID19, counting cancer deaths as COVID19).

          Only a commie shill would pretend that these corrupt bureaucrats were telling the truth.

          • jim says:

            Yul Bornhold has acknowledged the truth and substance of the red pill.

            Never seen a shill do that. I think he just gives too much credulity to Harvard and mainstream media. He is telling us the enemy’s story, but not because he is paid to do so.

            He says they cannot be the opposite of the truth on everything.

            Yes, they can be the opposite of the truth on everything. So many things have been politicized, even issues in fundamental physics, that it is difficult and dangerous to speak the truth on anything. You are always walking in a minefield, and if you say anything that you have not received from “authoritative sources”, you are going to step on an unexpected mine and get blown up. Which entirely cuts “authoritative sources” off from any external reality. And since there are a near infinite number of ways to be wrong, and only one way to be right, this isolation from external reality guarantees that they will always be wrong.

            • Not Tom says:

              If they can deny that there are two biological sexes, and make it illegal to affirm that there are two biological sexes, then there really is no limit to what else they might lie about.

              I don’t think they necessarily are the opposite of truth on everything, but they certainly can be, and the entirety of leftism is getting behind a lie that even the other leftists don’t believe (yet).

        • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

          Remind me when was the last time you (or anyone here) posted footnotes and references for “data claims”. If you are asking seriously you could start by working through

          https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

          and its parent website, read the last thousand posts on Alex Berenson’s twitter, and look through BioRxiv papers on COVID epidemiology. Last I checked Levitt’s predictions on excess deaths indicating Covid is over as an epidemic were coming true.

          In the US, by June if not earlier, when it became clear the hospitals were not going to overflow, demand for CV19 deaths began to exceed supply. Hospitals were and are being paid a premium for treating CV19 patients at the same time lockdown was starving them of non-Covid patients. At the top of the food chain, CDC, NIH (media whore Fauci) and Democrat/antiTrump leadership everywhere needed Covid deaths to be high and reporting standards were debauched to accomodate that. At the same time, treatment was improving and the population getting less susceptible, the most vulnerable being continually removed (by death) . And so field reports began appearing by mid-June or so of bogus Covid diagnoses being the norm when hospital bureaucrats filled out death certificates, then in July-August even mainstream media started reporting the false positive rates on the tests. Anyone tested positive for COVID who died within 60-90 days was by the official standard, listed as a Covid death.

          Excess deaths not including population growth (the Boomer death peak) are said to be about 300K. Lockdown death is substantial, for many reasons, and probably as high or higher than the true Covid number, and that’s ignoring the huge excess death in the future from lockdown today. If CV19 is really 120K, a bad flu season and if it’s 170K, bad flu plus stuff initially beyond a bad flu that will not continue into the future waves.

  3. Strannik says:

    With the DOJ/FBI now admitting openly that they are investigating the Bidens for money laundering;

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/29/report-doj-official-confirms-fbi-investigating-hunter-biden-for-money-laundering/

    It also means that they know that President Trump will win the 2020 election and aren’t afraid to further tip the scales on his behalf in order to do so.

    • Pooch says:

      It was already open from 2019.

    • BC says:

      Without arrests crimes are not real. Without arrests people with power will pretend the crime doesn’t exist. Hunter Biden must be arrested for it to make a real difference.

      • Strannik says:

        Who says he hasn’t, or is in some kind of protective custody and has flipped on his dad and pals?

        After all, seems to me that some of these leaks are either colossal sabotage or tremendous stupidity, or some combination of both. Like the picture of Hunter Biden asleep with a crack pipe in his mouth… On apparently his own computer.

        Something is very fishy.

        • Pooch says:

          Because Trump is not in power yet.

          The picture likely taken by one of the sluts he was banging on his phone. I’ve had girls do that to me as a joke after we are done fucking and I pass out.

          • Strannik says:

            He’s a rat. And he knows deep down he needs help that he’ll never really get being one of his dad’s minions.

            • Pooch says:

              He’s probably very dull like Fredo Capone. Didn’t purposely try to bring down the whole operation but too stupid to realize the magnitude of his mistake.

              Now once he is under arrest and staring at serious jail time, he may very well rat everyone out to save his own skin. Trump likely needs to consolidate power over the civil service first for that to happen.

  4. BC says:

    Another church burned down by antifa:

    https://www.kentuckytoday.com/stories/vietnamese-baptist-church-burns-amid-philadelphia-unrest,28730

    I’ve been spreading this around to religious people to let them know what the future is going to look like. Running away or bunkering down isn’t going to work this time.

    • jim says:

      Yes, there is a lot of it going around. And, not only is there a lot of it going around, but cucked pastors are too terrified to complain about it.

      Recall the curious relaxed attitude of Trump’s pastor to them setting fire to his church, and the distinctively supportive attitude of Trump’s Bishop to them setting fire to his church.

      • BC says:

        Are they cucked pastors, or enemy agents? I’ve been assuming most pastors are enemy agents there to restrain a real resurgence of Christianity from breaking out.

        • Oog en Hand says:

          If you cannot read Latin, Hebrew or Greek, don’t bother.

          • jim says:

            The essential parts of Christianity are well known, because Christians have been making them well known for two millennia.

            Reading ancient texts in the original is unnecessary. The older translations (translated before heretics got control) are fine.

        • Karl says:

          Calling a cucked pastor an enemy agent misses the point. A cucked pastor is a heretic.

          • BC says:

            A cucked pastor is a weakling who’s scared to stand up for his church, but doesn’t want his church burned down. An enemy agent, like the Bishops that Jim mentioned wants the church burned down.

            I’m probably wrong about most pastors being enemy agents, as their behavior seems indicate fear rather than glee.

            • Anonymous 2 says:

              Female or gay pastors are enemy agents, not just cucks. At best, they are implementing the classic mafia style bust-out on their sinecure. But, as we can see, many also strongly desire to spread spiritual poison.

            • James says:

              They are 100% enemy agents, part of the long march through the institutions.

      • Strannik says:

        I’d be curious to know if they’d change their tune once their allies in secular society are defeated?

        Half the fun in reading about the Ecumenical Councils was reading the admissions and recantations of the heretics once they were deprived of their support from heretical Emperors and other officials.

  5. The Real Spartacus says:

    I’ll agree to apologize for calling you “champ” (however hilarious it was) if you agree to have a civil conversation with me about who owns the women.

    How about it?

    • jim says:

      I already answered. Repeatedly. It is frequent topic on this blog. You failed to respond, merely asking the same question again, as if a gotcha answer was obvious. If there is some obvious answer different from the one repeatedly presented on this blog, tell me what it is.

      Not being marinated in the latest Marxism and progressivism, I really have no idea what answer you think is self evident. If you think it is something different from what I and the commenters say it is, tell me your answer and attempt to defend and justify it. Whatever you think is self evident, would not have been evident even to Marxists a few years back.

      I am silently deleting your unresponsive responses, and will continue to delete your unresponsive responses. If you make a relevant response to the answers already repeatedly given, I will allow it through.

      Supposed gotcha questions, which are only gotchas if everyone knows the progressive story and no one is allowed to contradict the progressive story, or if everyone takes for granted the self evident truth of Marxism, will be silently deleted. Instead, present an actual argument in support of the progressive or Marxist story that you are presupposing.

      Simply reminding us of the self evident moral superiority of progressivism and Marxism will continue to be silently deleted. I want a conversation, but you are just spitting. We have seen it all before.

      Let us debate whether women are interchangeable with men. I will not allow you to simply assume it. Let us debate the Marxist theory of value. I will not allow you to simply assume it.

      • Sic Semper Tyrannis says:

        [*deleted for inability to respond to R7 Rocket’s Woman Question test, for being unable to speak of the deeds of Soros, and for inability to notice who is funding and organizing Drag Queen Story Hour*]

        • Sic Semper Tyrannis says:

          [*deleted for inability to respond to R7 Rocket’s Woman Question test, for being unable to speak of the deeds of Soros, and for inability to notice who is funding and organizing Drag Queen Story Hour*]

          • Sic Semper Tyrannis says:

            [*deleted*]

            • jim says:

              You want an answer?

              Let me see if supervisor who owns the computer on which you are writing this and who gives you your paycheck allows you to state my position on the woman question when you tell me that it is wrong and has been refuted. What did I say that was wrong and how has it been refuted?

              If you are allowed to say what my position is, then I will defend it, but is pointless to discuss things with someone who will not acknowledge the position he attacks.

              The rest of your shilling has been silently deleted. Why do you bother?

              Oh, it is obvious why your bother. The HR computer that assigns you your productivity score marks any comment that gets through, and any comment that gets a response, as “engagement”.

              So I am going to silent deletion. If you want even a “deleted” response, you have to actually engage me. Start by telling me what my claims are that your sources supposedly refute.

  6. European Mutt says:

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/28/germany-imposes-month-long-lockdown-after-covid-19-spike/

    France and Germany locking down, officially till December. Of COURSE they are keeping the schools open this time because god forbid women quit their jobs and find out that they like spending time around their children. God forbid men can find jobs again and god forbid government propaganda is paused for a while.

    I predict the lockdowns will inevitably fail and will be extended until Christmas or further. Christmas is cancelled, the COVID god is after all holier than Jesus Christ.

    This virus is obviously seasonal and here to stay (not to mention getting more infectious and less lethal), but no, they say ‘every life is precious’ even as they are destroying countless other lives by ruining the economy and every non-COVID related part of the medical system.

    One aspect of immanetizing the Eschaton that originally pushed me towards the right is this weird, curiously short-sighted fixation of white leftists on eliminating absolutely all risks of life and achieving a completely subjective and autistic standard of happiness, thereby achieving theoretically eternal life on earth. Modern medicine in general is guilty of this; they produce dementia-like conditions with tranquilizers (also used in nursing homes because it’s ‘less work’), then artificially prolong the life of those zombies and tell us ‘at least they are happy’. You would not put your own dog through this ordeal, isn’t it supposed to be worse if you do it to a human being? And that’s only the cases I personally know of, I can only imagine what is going down right now in COVID ICUs. Ventilators as last rites are probably just the tip of the insanity icebarg.

    • Pooch says:

      This is why I’d rather stay and fight in America than flee to the outskirts of the empire. Better to die fighting Communists than be enslaved by Communists.

    • The Cominator says:

      The European countries don’t have the kind of military and security forces the us has… why aren’t you storming the reichstag and the French presidential palace…

      This isn’t glowposting but I mean a certain point I would think angry mobs would form.

      • Pooch says:

        They have no guns.

        • European Mutt says:

          Not to hard to get one.

          • The Cominator says:

            I gotta imagine in Southern Italy black market stuff is pretty easy to buy.

            • Pooch says:

              We’ll see with the election but the whitepill outlook is the covid lockdowns seemed to redpill the populace pretty well in the US. Considering the Europeans are even gayer than us, maybe they could use some more red pill doses.

            • Karl says:

              It is even more easy. Borders are open, no checks.

      • Pooch says:

        I did see a pretty good riot in Naples, Italy the other day when they announced new lockdowns there. Good for them.

      • European Mutt says:

        At some point this will happen, but I’m not betting on very soon. People will be ignoring lockdowns/restrictions in such high numbers though that the cops won’t be able to catch them all. Especially the french. Trust in government is already eroding.

        In Germany they put out some obvious false flag protests already in August in an attempt to get out in front of something like this:

        https://nypost.com/2020/08/01/thousands-of-maskless-germans-protest-covid-19-rules-in-berlin/
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/30/german-leaders-hit-out-at-protesters-attempt-to-storm-reichstag-covid

        The protest in the first link was mostly to discourage any normies from opposing lockdowns, because they would be associated with morons like these. Bunch of hippies and homeopathy types. Some famous German musicians supported these protests, and I am pretty sure they are all in the pocket of the left. One of them, Xavier Naidoo, supports a ridiculous legalistic theory that Germany is not a legitimate state or some bullshit (as if it matters, de facto the US decides who is legitimate or not). Most people who WENT to the protests were probably true believers in hippiesism and love will overcome hate or some bullshit, but they discouraged 100x more people from ever joining them.

        The ‘attack’ on the Reichstag in the second link (more like just getting up the stairs, not even sure if that’s illegal!) was 100% fake. There are ZERO (or as close to zero as makes no difference) real-world nazis or Kaiser monarchists in Germany these days. Every Nazi or Reich flag is a strong indication of the wielder glowing in the dark, so this ‘storm’ on the Reichstag was very likely a complete false flag to give anybody bad optics attempting this in future.

        There USED TO BE some people in East Germany until quite recently who supported the Nazi party but they were all absorbed by the AfD (cuckservative light-populists) and pretty much neutralized. Even before that it was a well-known fact the Nazi party consisted pretty much ONLY of intelligence entryists.

        Feel free to disagree with my take, this just makes the most sense to me.

        • Pooch says:

          Seems like Germany is the most neutered of EU nations. You’ll likely need other nations to lead the way first. The mob in Naples seemed encouraging.

          • European Mutt says:

            They have it easy, they can switch horses and rely on the mafia for protection 🙂 Probably paying them anyway already or working for them.

            In countries like Germany probably the way it’s going to go down (if it is ever) is that the cops get pissed off enough that they switch sides. Cops are organized on the state level in Germany so they will flip state by state and if Merkel is foolish enough attempt to send tanks in there (German air force is a joke) the vastly more numerous American forces stationed in Germany (if controlled by Trump) will decimate the German forces. Not to mention morale will be very low if they actually tried this.

            They are going after supposed Nazis among cops right now, but nothing is turning up. This just makes the cops more angry and more likely to defect. Probably with them being cops after all, need some legalistic crap for justification though.

            • Karl says:

              If cops are actually purged, it will make a difference. Ex-cops defecting matters much less than cops defecting.

              We’ll see whether the present attempt will be a purge or mere harassment.

              Purge of the German military is pretty advanced. It is a bit harder to ensure that there are no right-leaning persons in the police, but Merkel and her cronies know how to purge an organisation.

              • European Mutt says:

                Merkel doesn’t know jack, she’s just a puppet (I just wrote Merkel because I have no idea who really is behind all this, possibly a wing of the US state department? Yes she looks like pure evil, but so does Soros and he is most likely a puppet as well), but yeah they purged the military pretty hard. As a side effect they are probably left with a lot of people who don’t know how to fight.

                I agree cops matter much more than ex-cops. Both a hard purge and continued mere harassment could lead cops to defect, the former of course much more quickly than the latter. The worst outcome is a salami slicer where they purge the hard right first and only then target conservatives, but I’m not seeing that at the moment. They are too holiness-spiraled for that and don’t even recognize any difference between those groups any more.

                They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand they believe that any cop who convicts brown people and doesn’t hate whites is a racist, on the other hand they need the cops to enforce lockdowns. They will have to come down on one side or the other.

                • Karl says:

                  Indeed, they are between a rock and a hard place. Where I live, their prefered solution is to task non-cops with lock down enforcement. The people who hand out fines for parking violations are now also fining people for not wearing a mask, for example.

                  In addition, there is talk to recruit “honorary” or “auxiliary” police to enforce lockdown – all part timers. I’m sure they’ll get plenty of applications from Karens

            • Pooch says:

              the vastly more numerous American forces stationed in Germany (if controlled by Trump) will decimate the German forces.

              Germany’s civil war is not starting before America’s and highly unlikely Trump would allow American troops to fight in Europe with a war raging at home.

              The hope of Europe is that Trump wins the Second Civil War of America decisively and shuts down the leftism spiral at it’s source, Harvard. Only then, as Jim says, will leftism silently die throughout the empire (or former empire if Trump spins off the provinces).

              In the meantime, as Trump’s power grows in the US (assuming he wins re-election), I wonder if nationalist leaders in Europe, like Salvini and Le Pen, can really start to take hold and win elections. They are likely to establish very strong relations with Trump if they do win. There must be a Salvini-like figure in Germany, Germans can rally behind in the next election.

              • European Mutt says:

                As I wrote, this is just in the unlikely event Merkel would actually send the tanks in. Most likely she would just attempt to leave the country (or die from a brain aneurysm), although off the top of my head, of all the countries in the world, only Sweden would maybe take her…

                I am pretty sure if leftism dies in the US its obvious escape is to Europe. It has nowhere else to go. Trump has kept most of his promises so far, but has not brought US troops home from Europe yet. I think there is a reason behind that, but I could be wrong.

                Salvini has been surprisingly solid, but would never win Germans over. Way too crass. I don’t actually think Germans are that neutered per se, my extended family is full of alphas who act German to the nth degree. It’s just you need to have a thin veneer of niceness all the time. But this has been the case since at least the 50s. Trump was a perfect fit for America, Salvini a decent one for Italy (although he never managed to end free healthcare for illegal migrants!), but Germany needs some kind of guy who acts a bit above it all, always stays calm, just relentlessly criticizes everything Merkel screws up, and avoids any association with Nazis like the plague. When criticized for being racist/sexist he should just pull a Trump and say “I’m the least racist person in this room.” I have used this tactic myself a few times before and it works. People laugh and move on.

                I have thought about optics for reactionaries in Germany a lot, so I can share more if people are interested.

                Not too sold on le Pen. First of all she’s a woman, so maybe acceptable for peacetime political office in a calm democracy, but hardly for handling a crisis like this. Secondly she betrayed her father and pushed him away for political incorrectness which is a no-go for me. Thirdly she is somewhat of a socialist in that she supports the disastrous and expensive state-owned industry and healthcare in France. She embodies a less grave version of what I think the faults with the Alternative for Germany are.

                I don’t know if you are from the US, but a lot of Americans throw all the European “populists” in one bag, they really are a quite diverse bunch though. Like I wrote in another post I only really like PiS, Jobbik, Fidesz and Salvini (who I did forget last time). Most of the others are ‘vacuum cleaners’ or ‘substitute drugs’ for those on the real right to vote for.

                Lastly, I do not think the future rulers at the polls in most European countries. Maybe in the east, countries like Estonia, Poland, or Croatia, which are the true periphery of the Empire now.

                • European Mutt says:

                  Lastly, I do not think the future rulers WILL BE DECIDED at the polls.

      • Karl says:

        Storming the Reichstag or the French presidential palace is pointless, unless the storming group is large enough to actually take over government. Organizing such a large group is very difficult.

        Mobs might help as part of a strategy to take over government, but they are not sufficient – and even mobs must be organized.

    • Encelad says:

      “One aspect of immanetizing the Eschaton that originally pushed me towards the right is this weird, curiously short-sighted fixation of white leftists on eliminating absolutely all risks of life and achieving a completely subjective and autistic standard of happiness”

      For me it was the fixation of white leftists on eliminating life under the guise of protecting life. To be more specific, something clicked on my head when I realized the true character of my polite, clean cut leftist acquaintance with his little greeny NGO. In short: this NGO of his is actually just an appendix of “That one Big greeny NGO”, of which my acquaintance is a fervent militant, disguised as a local community. I believed for a long time that he was pushing his crazy ideas about fighting “climate change”, which would entail leaving countless people without jobs, electricity and eventually water and food, because he didn’t understand the consequences, despite him being smart. The truth is: he pushes them because he DOES understand the consequences. I realized that when he says that humanity is like a disease to Earth, he is not venting, he means it literally and plans to act accordingly. And the problem is that it is not just a random whacko into his own bubble. His beliefs (which he tries to spread daily, constantly and relentlessly on every venue he can access) come top to bottom from that Big greeny NGO (and, now I know, from Harvard), are shared by powerful people and politicians like AOC, and those people are serious about going to implement them, if any chance arises.

      • European Mutt says:

        That’s actually a very extreme case of what I’m talking about. Once humanity is dead, it will be at peace. By definition.

        I was just emphasizing the normie version more. There are a lot of quite ordinary, very civilized if a little too prim-and-proper people who follow moral principles (like every life is precious) WITHOUT ADMITTING the consequences. The short-sightedness is a kind of psychological protection because they realize they are wrong. They just can’t admit it. This is probably also where unprincipled exceptions to leftism stem from.

        Some people are just so far gone they DO admit it. Those are the people all the leftist normies above aspire to be like. They are ‘fearless’, ‘bold’, in other words — insane. They never scared me personally so much as the puritan mob though. I find them easier to deal with because at least they’re honest.

        • Encelad says:

          Well, I don’t know if it is an extreme case, certainly he is a true believer, but you should not imagine him like a villain with a maniacal laughter. He seems like a normie until you happen to talk to him about politics or society. What I learned is this: There are those people that say ironically “vote Cthulhu”, “we deserve extinction”, “I pray for the giant meteor”, etc .. although they may joke and believe they are joking, some of them, deep inside, really want to see humanity suffer.
          It took me a long time to see this, because I refused to believe what I was seeing and hearing.

          • Aldento says:

            It’s the inevitable conclusion of realizing that the world is not enough combined with poor socialization. Traditional theologies from the Greeks to the Christ teach that either the world is a manifestation of a deeper world meaning that it’s foolish to overly dwell on it or the world is hopelessly flawed so you should seek salvation. Leftoids accept that the world is flawed but reject any notion of salvation not from their own hands. And when confronted with the reality that they will never achieve such, they sink into rage/bitterness at “humanity” (meme) that’s compounded by poor socialization.

      • Aldento says:

        It’s gamma rage (“ugh I hate humies they won’t do what I want them to/I have problems socializing”) on the bottom, carrying out Tikkum Olam on the top. The gamma raging ones I’m sure when you press them will say they care about their family/wives/children and wouldn’t murder them if given the opportunity (though they might be fine with their daughters dying alone and their lineages dying out). The ones on top expect to be in the New World as lords and ladies.

    • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

      Do they just pretend Sweden does not exist (and Dr Raoult a crackpot)? In the US the success of high asabiyah countries without lockdowns can be disregarded as requiring levels of social organization and public health discipline that are inconceivable in modern America. But in France?

    • Karl says:

      Not sure what you mean with “the lockdowns will inevitably fail”. I’m pretty sure hotels, restaurants, gyms etc. will be closed. Pretty easy for the government to enforce that. Hard keep secrect that your restaurant, gym or whatever is open, and if found open, pretty easy to fine the owner. Fines are prohibitive. It is impossible to keep the business proftable when such fines have to paid. Confiscation of property if fines are unpaid is very easy, at least in Germany.

      Sure, individual citizens can meet or go out without a mask. That part of lockdown orders are very hard to enforce for the government, but that part isn’t economically important.

      Maybe the courts will declare lockdown orders void. So I agree there is a chance that lockdown will “fail”, but I would not bet on it. I expect that the German economy will be locked down.

      • BC says:

        I think he means fails to stop the virus.

        • European Mutt says:

          Yes. Sorry if that was not clear. Virus is spreading so easily now that I think people are getting infected by the droves even at work or they get it from their own kids. OTOH they could just go full socialist command economy at some point and close down all non-customer-facing businesses and factories too. Didn’t they do something like this in parts of the US?

          • BC says:

            The virus is spreading easily because it evolved to be less lethal to get past quarantine. Something that Jim predicted would happen and something that used to be text book knowledge on pandemics.

            From the looks of it, they’re planning on keeping the US locked down forever so they can institute socialism. However, this is driving wealth from the blue states, to the red states as the red states are mostly not locked down. When Trump is reelected they’re likely to give up on the endless COVID lockdowns.

    • jim says:

      Since Yarvin was doxxed, he is weak stuff. He does not say the unsayable.

      His stuff on bitcoin was good, because that is not on prog radar yet, but anything that is on prog radar … he used to dance around, and then long windedly sneak it through. Not sneaking it through these days.

      • Zach says:

        Yes.

        …though this one got heated and somehow I missed it. Perhaps others have. This one is a little more raw than his assorted podcasts that I’ve seen/heard on youtube. TheRightStuff still resides in the extremities of “their” vision. Just a different flavor of the Moldbug -2.0.

  7. Aldento says:

    Off-topic:

    Has anyone here been watching Netflix’s other pozzed, non-Cuties shit?

    Like this for example (Castlevania):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q1oQF9r2AU

    It’s as shit as the reviewer says, and the latest season tops it off with fag sex. It having Warren Ellis (a fat fedora lord with a hardcore hatred of Christianity) as one of the men key to it before word spread on his unwoke antics with the girlies says enough on it.

    • Zach says:

      U-turn:

      On Netflix The Mandalorian was meh, not horrible. Unexpected result. I’m hoping Dune breaks through here in December.

      ZeroZeroZero – very good show on Netflix. My fav anyway.

  8. Strannik says:

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that President Trump is going to win by a significant and clear margin, but not so much of a blowout that humiliates Biden/Harris totally. Biden will concede on election night November 3rd pledging to work with President Trump to ”heal our nation” or something like that, asking his supporters to respect the rule of law, and the rioting by the anarchists will commence shortly after his concession speech.

    If i’m wrong I’m wrong, but that’s what i’m picking up on as happening with my gut feelings about this.

    • jim says:

      Voting on the ground where republican scutineers are able to watch it is a landslide to Trump in the states that matter.

      But, I think that come November third, no states are going to matter.

      • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

        But the media are zugzwanged by their handling of the laptop, the lastest of last straws in their credibility erosion. Either they shamefully and belatedly start covering the scandal, downgrading Biden’s support to a pure Spite Trump vote (30-40 percent max of remaining votes), or nobody will take the announcement of Trump’s loss at face value.

        • Karl says:

          So what if nobody takes an announcement of Trump’s loss at face value? Biden supporters know that there is organized voter fraud. They’ll cheer such an announcement.

          Trump supporters largely will also know that there was voter fraud. So what? Screaming “voter fraud” won’t change anything.

          After the election, Trump matters, maybe SCOTUS, maybe generals, maybe police chiefs, but the voters won’t, even if they are aware that there was wide spread voter fraud.

          • jim says:

            Trump clearly has a loyalist chain of command that can put cops on the street. The democrats have the generals. The plausibility of the election result will matter a great deal in what happens next.

            • Strannik says:

              If I’m reading you correctly in the esoteric sense, it’s kind of a foregone conclusion as to what happens next.

            • James says:

              Trump also has the Praetorians. The entire special forces chain of command is full of complete shitlords from about the rank of Major or Colonel and down.

              Meanwhile, the generals are generals because they played politics in the Obama era, but even their immediate subordinates for the most part hate them. The left having the generals does not in meaningful way mean they have the military.

              Per Aristophanes, “Ah! The generals! They are numerous but not good for much!”

      • Strannik says:

        Right. As in; President Trump will simply win. And people will look at their screens and monitors and see the results of the election and conclude the same thing and be mollified that the alleged sovereign will of the people has been heard.

        • Pooch says:

          And where will they see the results being reported? No major news site will project a winner with fake mail ballots still outstanding.

          • Pooch says:

            project a winner in states*

          • Strannik says:

            I am reasonably certain that Biden will concede early on on election night. But barring that for some reason, people will know from the internet. It’ll be more clear even with the MSM than we realize.

            • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

              All but one of the 8 supposed swing states (as defined by cooked anti-Trump polling) are barred from counting late ballots after recent SCOTUS decisions. That was before ACB, the Wisconsin decision and the pending case on Pennsylvania.

              When the tidal wave rolls in, that leaves little room for a top-down surgical fabrication that isn’t transparently belied by the ground reports the minute it hits the news. Fraud and 2x outspending can run up the score in House, state and local races but the Presidential race is a different animal that is very dangerous to “ride” should they try it. Not enough cards to play and not enough time.

              • Pooch says:

                Didn’t that SCOTUS decision only apply to Wisconsin? Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, Nevada, Minnesota, Georgia, and Texas are still allowing late ballots.

                Additionally, apparently the 3 closely contested states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are not counting the early voting ballots until election day. I just listened on a podcast that NBC highly doubts these 3 states will have enough votes counted to allow any of those states to be called election night or even the morning after.

                I’m getting the sense that if Trump is to claim victory election night he’ll probably need to do it without WI, MI, and PA. Not impossible, but he may need to flip both Nevada and Minnesota.

              • Strannik says:

                Yes, which is also why they can’t decide whether to tell people to stay home because of an uptick in COVID 19 cases, or get out and vote en masse in person, so they’re doing both.

                I think their leadership is basically decapitated, whether by Trump or themselves.

    • Strannik says:

      And guess what? I think that the other side is starting to realize that they’re losing when they were under the illusion they were winning;

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/ruh-roh-top-democrats-begin-panic-biden-mirage-dissipates-reality-sets/

      Because for one thing, this shit doesn’t play very well in ”fly-over country”;

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/breaking-exclusive-hunter-biden-pictures-half-naked-exposed-certain-minor-joe-biden-lying/

      Or anywhere else for that matter.

      • Theshadowedknight says:

        The read I get from his texts is that he is being falsely accused as some sort of play against him by a woman and is pissed that it’s hurting his family. I don’t know the whole situation, but thats how it looks. I’d be discussing body disposal and not PR optics. I despise women making perjurous statements on sexual matters, and the right playing along with it is disgusting.

        That we might be forced into using this by circumstance is unpleasant, but remember that it is merely a position of convenience. A successful middle aged man dicking down a teenage slut is hardly a hill to die on. The problem isn’t the man, its the women.

        • Strannik says:

          It’s his niece, among others TSK, you have to draw the line somewhere. I’m not denying what you’re saying on the basics, but the guy is a scumbag. It’s relevance is that it makes him subject to threats and blackmail by other powers, weak and compromised and indeed a national security threat.

          • Theshadowedknight says:

            I’ll admit to being squeamish about the cosanguinuity issue and agree that he is scum, but his response sounds like every pissed off recipient of a false accusation. I don’t know the details or the truth of it, but he sounds to me like someone frustrated that he was under fire for something he didn’t do. There is plenty of other shady shit to get him on that we have to remember that the woman problem is the core of the left problem. Despite the utility of crucifying the left with their own principles (or lack thereof).

            • Strannik says:

              Nobody really wants to elect a creepy and corrupt senile President, and definitely not an enabler of family incest. Caligula and Heliogebalus did not end well.

    • Oscar C. says:

      My thoughts exactly on the outcome of the election.

      Biden is an incredibly weak candidate, worse than Hillary. The Republican base is highly energized, unlike Dem voters (understandably).

    • James says:

      That’s my gut feeling as well. The direct polls aren’t showing in Trump’s favor, but they didn’t in Brexit or 2016 either. Meanwhile, large numbers of rightists openly admit to lying in polls, or admit they’re afraid of sharing their views due to potential retaliation.

      When looking at the changes in new voter registration since 2016, the percentage of people who think Trump will win, the early ballot turnouts by party registration vs voting patterns in 2016 based on party registration, it looks really good for Trump pretty much everywhere but PA.

      In particular, the rust belt ex-PA, NC, and Florida look astonishingly good for him. He’s going to win by a substantial margin, and he’s going to start his second term with a renewed mandate, and the new chain of command he built in his first term to enable him to actually get things done.

  9. Strannik says:

    Trump is going to give Biden/Harris a crushing defeat;

    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/nyt-shock-trump-carrying-24-percent-of-philly-its-over/

    But we have to fight like he’s still 10 points behind, and not become complacent. Make this as huge a defeat as possible.

    • Pooch says:

      Not over until the fat ladies cry.

      • Strannik says:

        Not over, but all the momentum is on President Trump’s side.

        • Pooch says:

          It always was, but as Jim’s headline says, the Democrats plan is to announce a landslide Biden victory anyway. Biden was In Georgia today and is planning on campaigning in Texas, indicating they think they are well ahead. Trump pulled money from Florida (because he’s so far ahead there) and is moving it into Minnesota yet the Media looks at that as a sign of Trump surrendering Florida. They are completely oblivious to anything but a Biden landslide.

          • The Cominator says:

            I don’t get the muh Texas meme…

            If Trump is close in Minnesotta and Biden says he is going to ban oil what kind of vote fraud op do they think they have in Texas to think it will be even close.

            • Strannik says:

              Texas is solidly in President Trump’s camp, Governor Abbot personally assured him of that, not that he really had to do that.

          • Strannik says:

            I have the feeling Biden will call it early.

            • The Cominator says:

              The problem is the Michigan and Pennsylvania (which will be the crucial states in question) counts can’t possibly finish counting the mail ins (I suppose Trump could win Minnesotta) by election night from what I understand… don’t know about Minnesotta

              Then Biden attempts to use lawfare to get a bunch of dodgy votes included… it should fail but it will delay the results and give the Democrats cause to bitch the election was stolen and to try color revolution.

              Hopefully Trump at that point just starts having people shot.

          • Not Tom says:

            indicating they think they are well ahead

            Or want people to believe they think that, so it’s less outrageous when they try to steal several swing states (“Come on, man, we were ahead in Texas, you think we can’t win Michigan? Come on, man!”)

  10. @jim, completely off-topic, but I like your avatar a lot. I just went and rewatched some of the old WB Looney Tunes cartoons on Youtube (many of which would horrify the Progressives of today :D) and Foghorn Leghorn was one of my favourite characters (next to Daffy Duck; Bugs Bunny was not always as funny as Daffy though). Reminded me of the old Cartoon Network days. Genuinely laugh out loud funny, unlike the garbage cartoons of today.

    Hmm…maybe we should download and preserve those old cartoons before they start wiping them out for “racism”.

  11. Bilge_Pump says:

    Alright, so, I tried to get a job with the US military recently (not telling you which branch). Haven’t had a job since April. I was working at a fast food restaurant before, chubby boss girl was hitting on me, touching me etc, I didn’t handle it well and got fired.

    Anyway, I was denied because I have a misdemeanor on my record. “Stalking”. What happened was a girl invited me to her birthday party, she got stupidly drunk and was going around touching and linking arms with a lot of the guys there, including me. During this period of my life I was experiencing what is commonly called “Red Pill Rage”, combined with the usual asperger’s anger. Feeling I had no legitimate (socially accepted, etc) outlets for my anger, I went on an insane texting spree, telling her I was going to kill her in horrific ways. I have been convicted of no other crimes.

    If you ruled the world what would you have done with people like me?

    • Bilge_Pump says:

      Oh yea important detail, I didn’t text her that stuff until a few weeks after the party where she was being a total skank.

    • jim says:

      Getting upset, rather than contemptuous, of the behavior of a skank who is not your property, is horribly beta, and will cause all females aware of this behavior to not want to have anything to do with you.

      If red pilled, you should understand that this is how unowned women behave. Red pill rage is not the red pill, but the purple pill – you are holding onto blue pill expectations, and are shocked at red pill reality.

      I have never threatened anyone except I absolutely intended to carry out that threat if they failed to comply – nor ever threatened anyone if they have already failed to comply and it is time to act.

      Thus, people who threaten other people without adequate grounds, would not be accepted into the army if I had something to do with it.

      • Pooch says:

        And if we are going Old Testament. In a perfect world, Threatening the life of a woman you don’t own should get you somewhere between a bad ass kicking and losing your life from the woman’s owner (husband or father).

    • neofugue says:

      If you tell someone that you are going to murder him, you better do it. As a man, your word is your bond and your honor. Not just to women, if I told a man I am going to kill him, either he would die or I would die trying. Empty threats are unmanly, and they not only make you look like a white knight, they make you look like a coward.

      It is wrong for a feral woman to accuse a man of any type of crime or misdemeanor, since feral women are not fit for personhood. You were wronged by an evil justice system which puts the feelings of apish creatures above the rights of the civilized. In a reactionary society, if you threatened to kill a slut you may face her pimp, but she would have no right to bring her complaint to a court of men.

      I would say if such was made to a woman of personhood status, a wife or daughter, her husband or father would have the ability to bring HIS complaint to a court of law, but the legal details for each individual case would vary by circumstance. Law is a lucrative profession for a reason.

      • The Cominator says:

        Of course we should absolutely legalize dueling by consent with very rare exceptions (in wartime high ranking officers cannot duel, and nobody can duel the Isaac Newton’s and Elon Musk’s of our society because such men are individually indispensable) otherwise it should be allowed and in some circumstances encouraged.

        Jim thinks being cucked should be an absolute license to extrajudicial killing of both parties if the aggrieved man wants but I see this leading to disorderly Sicilian style blood feuds and such especially since our government will in the end have much less of a standing government controlled police apparatus then the social democracies of today (also there are far far worse ways women can fuck you over than that even in societies where a guy owns his wife not hard for a wife to set a guy up to look like he committed a serious crime for example… they can cry rape now but even if they can’t they can do other shit and nothing is so cunning as a roastie out to screw you). Also most of the police apparatus that does exist will be devoted to looking for spies traitors and leftist subversives ie doing counterintelligence work with ordinary enforcement of the king’s peace left to upstanding gentlemen of the community so maybe instead…

        Adultery maybe should come with the option of having a “forced duel” if sufficient evidence can be provided… if its a fair duel less likely to spawn an endless chain of reprisal murders by parties who feel that the bastard should have known that his wife was a dirty lying backstabbing whore when he agreed to marry her and such and that their brother/son etc should not have been murdered by that psycho just because the whore seduced him and such. In most cases the duel won’t go to the death or money will be paid and it won’t take place.

        • suones says:

          Agree about dueling. As for it not being allowed among officers in wartime, it is not to be allowed among officers at all. Countermanding this prohibition should lead to disciplinary action. An officer’s life belongs to the Sovereign, and is His alone to dispose of as He sees fit. A duty officer must seek permission to engage in any potentially hazardous activity, including dueling.

          > Jim thinks being cucked should be an absolute license to extrajudicial killing of both parties

          I agree completely, and this has been the de-facto law in India till the 1950s, and in rural areas even today.

          > …if the aggrieved man wants…

          *Not* executing the fornicator would be a severe loss of status for the cuckold. One who owns property must be prepared to defend it. If one does not defend it, even with society’s backing, then it is a dereliction of duty and the property is in play.

          > … but I see this leading to disorderly Sicilian style blood feuds…

          “Blood feuds” only result if one of the parties feels it has been wronged. A cuckold has the right to execute the one who wronged him, and the latter’s family must agree to the fairness of this law. If they resort to “vendetta” then it is obviously immoral and unfair, and the local Liege Lord will put them down. I will defer to an actual Sicilian to respond to this, but I feel the Hollywood/fiction portrayal of blood-feuds is very wrong. India has had no social problems arising from the execution of fornicators. Considering our people’s high libido, it has been such strict laws that have preserved sacramental marriage into modern times.

          A fun historical footnote: Commander K. M. Nanavati, an officer of the Indian Navy, was cuckolded by his English wife (lesson: never marry a foreign woman). He shot her paramour, and was fully acquitted of the same by a jury, in 1959! It took a lot of political manipulation for the Bombay High Court to convict him, and even then he received a Governor’s pardon. The Indian populace, even today, feels strongly about cuckoldry, although people will not admit it for fear of the fun police.

          • jim says:

            In most places you can kill someone who is taking your television. If it is illegal to kill him, the law is seldom enforced, and where it is enforced, felt as an intolerable and unbearable injustice.

            Not being able to kill someone who is taking your wife is a manifestation of consent culture, that a man has no right to his wife.

            It is very hard to reproduce if marriage can be terminated at female whim.

            We abolish consent culture, we restore marital debt. When this is felt internally, then people will kill adulterers. It will be impossible to stop them, and stopping them will be felt as intolerable and unbearable injustice.

            If women can consent, if female consent marries morally and legally, then you get PUA culture, defect/defect equilibrium. No one likes this. Not the beta males who keep society going by working, paying taxes, and fighting as soldiers and policemen, and don’t get pussy. Not the women. Not even the PUAs.

            • The Cominator says:

              So lets talk specifics are you talking caught in the act under a man’s own roof… that I can understand and agree with under castle and freehold doctrine.

              But let say he finds out via spying or gossips running their mouths and its never under their roof… does he wait outside the guys house or work and blow him away and lets say he has relatives who regard him favorably… would they not arrange on the dark web for someone to fly in and whack the guy then themselves.

              Other than the strange and unusual circumstance of a man violating another’s wife under the husband’s own roof… better off making it a cause for dueling or for a large fine.

              • BC says:

                You talk like a cuck.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Stop trying to represent yourself as higher status or something you got modded for being a hysterical Corona Karen. Picking flame wars with me is not going to make that go away.

                  You are going to get all sorts of reprisal killings if you go Jim’s way so I want to hear a solution from him that solves the Arab-Sicilian blood feud problem that will likely arise.

                • jim says:

                  We don’t see reprisal killings over killing burglars.

                  Why should we see reprisal killings over killing adulterers?

                • BC says:

                  You are claiming that crime that has been considered a death sentence in almost all human history should be handled as a fine. As a fucking fine.

                  If a man sleeps with your women, you kill him. If you fail to so you are a cuckold. If you advocate for allowing cuckolding then you are a talking like a cuck.

                  Frankly I have enough of your bullshit over COVID. You’ve gotten almost every other prediction you made around here wrong and when you get challenged on an issue you start pissing about calling COVID right.

                  Jim’s frequently right and he’s frequently wrong but he’s open about admitting both, but you never see him attack others over him being right while others were wrong when challenged on an issue.

                • The Cominator says:

                  1st of all you picked a fight here (and lots of other fights with me as well).

                  As far as a fine… I also said you should be able to force a duel and conceded that Jim’s solution could be considered if you caught them in the act under your own roof. Fines to the aggrieved party if he is willing to accept it can cover all sorts of sins… in old Germanic law they could cover murder so lets not pretend nobody cares about money some people will gladly take the money to forget the matter.

                  Societies that winked at extrajudicial killings over adultery in broader circumstances than caught in the act under the mans roof (ie Arabs and societies in close contacts with them such as Sicilians and generally other nomads and some mountain people) universally had a big blood feud problem and its easy to imagine why, if your daughter (or sister if you got along with her) is killed by her husband a father is naturally going to think well the bastard must have drove her to it and the relatives of her lover are going to think well she was a whore and her husband was a psycho and my son/brother etc did nothing wrong and a lot of times they are going to want revenge. Its never going to be the fault of the parties killed for adultery in the eyes of their own family… and down this road lies the blood feud. In Medieval through Age of Exploration Europe you could generally kill your wife and her lover only if you caught them under your roof or in the age of dueling it would be grounds to call someone out publicaly.

                  My only really wrong major prediction was that I thought the DNC wouldn’t be stupid enough to put in Biden and thought they would run Moochelle. I got it wrong because our enemies were stupid and insane (I thought the remaining DNC gerontocracy would be smarter)… I’d rather assume and plan that our enemies would do something smart if they do something stupid easy to adjust to that.

                  Getting Covid wrong is a major failing NOBODY on the hard right ever should have made. It demonstrates that the media can still influence them and that they can’t spot obvious lies under stress (and with the South Korean data the lies became obvious)… I only bring it up with you a lot because this is not the 1st time you’ve picked a fight with me for whatever reason. If you want me to stop putting you down over it stop picking fights with me. But everytime you pick a fight with me I’m going to remind you of your cowardice during Covid situation…

                • Steve Johnson says:

                  Cominator really shouldn’t be talking about elections unless he can explain how his constant moronic prediction of Biden being replaced by “Moochelle” Obama were in any way connected with reality.

                  Even his being sort of right about Covid was because he got it backwards. The Cathedral’s response was that it was very serious so they went into overdrive attempting to spread it so as to blame Trump (and out of the sheer love of murder). They blocked testing – FDA invoked emergency measures that only allowed CDC to produce tests, CDC screwed up the test and was active in blocking anyone from using good tests – all until there was confirmed community spread. This was the “go to Chinatown, go to the movies, go to Chinese New Year’s parades” phase. This was their initial plan – only later did they switch gears to control measures that were mainly aimed at inflicting pain on badwhites but.

                  This (of course) was too subtle for Cominator to understand since he bought into a retard tier meme about Biden getting replaced on the ballot with Michelle Obama. To give some perspective on this in 2004 I read the same type of theorizing that there was some kind of nefarious plot by the Republicans to replace Bush on the ballot with Cheney. Election’s a week out – when’s that switcheroo that gains nothing and with no real motive coming?

                • BC says:

                  >1st of all you picked a fight here (and lots of other fights with me as well).

                  Oh please, you’ve gone around insulting everyone because you got COVID right. You never stop crowing about it and you refuse to accept that you were wrong on other issues. And you do deserve credit because COVID’s was a big deal but you’ve become like Al Bundy always talking about the big game you won in high school.

                  I find your behavior disgusting. You endless talk about the millions of people you want to murder while you’re fine with men fucking other men’s women with them dying for it. That shows something distinctly wrong with you. Even in my most blue pilled days I wanted to see such people dead because it simply felt right.

                  >Getting Covid wrong is a major failing NOBODY on the hard right ever should have made. It demonstrates that the media can still influence them and that they can’t spot obvious lies under stress (and with the South Korean data the lies became obvious)… I only bring it up with you a lot because this is not the 1st time you’ve picked a fight with me for whatever reason. If you want me to stop putting you down over it stop picking fights with me. But everytime you pick a fight with me I’m going to remind you of your cowardice during Covid situation…

                  Cowardice? You can fuck off and die you worm. I’ve had a loaded gun pointed at my chest and I went after the gun instead of trying to running away or begging for my life.

                  With COVID I was worried for parents because I saw people dying in China and the reaction the Chinese were acting told me something completely fucked. I looked at the South Korea data and decided that masking wearing/contract tracing was reducing death rates compared to China. Something that wasn’t going on in the US at the time. So I got my parents some masks to wear and urged them to follow the same precautions the South Korea were like not going to church or riding public transit.

                  Those still seem like reasonable things to have done especially when the NYC was spreading it the entire country via the subways.

                • R7 Rocket says:

                  @BC

                  “With COVID I was worried for parents because I saw people dying in China and the reaction the Chinese were acting told me something completely fucked.”

                  Those Chinese videos of people dying in the streets were fake.

                • Not Tom says:

                  Societies that winked at extrajudicial killings over adultery in broader circumstances […] universally had a big blood feud problem

                  Or… the ones that didn’t have a blood feud problem (i.e. most of them) don’t show up on your radar because the problem was uninteresting and therefore undocumented, and only very low-functioning low-IQ societies had this problem at such a scale that it was even worth mentioning. Perhaps you are confusing cause and effect, and it’s not “universal” at all.

                  and its easy to imagine why

                  Being easy to imagine is not a reliable indicator of accuracy.

                • BC says:

                  Those Chinese videos of people dying in the streets were fake.

                  How do you know and who faked them? At the time the cathedral was saying COVID was no big deal.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Some Cathedral bigwigs obviously conspired with the Chinese to try to fuckup Trump’s reelection, so the Chinese faked the videos.

                  The Cathedral downplayed the virus in order to shock everyone with a sudden about face.

                • BC says:

                  Some Cathedral bigwigs obviously conspired with the Chinese to try to fuckup Trump’s reelection, so the Chinese faked the videos.

                  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What’s the evidence?

                • The Cominator says:

                  The evidence was how the Chinese and Cathedral acted. The claim isn’t all that extraordinary either. It seems like you are still biased in favor of trusting the media rather than assuming anything they say is bullshit and then working backwords to establish how they bullshitted you.

                  But okay maybe the Chinese didn’t even conspire, they just knew how the Cathedral would react if they gave them a production of scary virus and acted like retards who were scared of it (but made sure to let it out of China).

                • BC says:

                  You didn’t present any evidence the Chinese conspired with the Democrats on COVID to make it seem it was worse than it was. In fact the Chinese keeping their death numbers relatively low works against your theory, since if they wanted to cause fear they would have hyped them up.

                  A better conspiracy theory would be the Democrats thought COVID would be very dangerous, thus down played it so they could spread it and then lock down the county over it. But that doesn’t have any Chinease involvement beyond that China wanted the virus to spread out side of China as a fuck you to the world, which seems to be Trump’s position.

                  You’re idea that you should always distrust the media and believe the opposite doesn’t work with COVID because the media flipped flopped on it, requiring one to be believe both ways depending when they were claiming it.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “A better conspiracy theory would be the Democrats thought COVID would be very dangerous,”

                  The Democrats in their lower ranks believe what the party line is subject to some of them always trying to slightly outleft and outholy the others.

                  When the media says covid is nothing they are kissing strangers in Chinatown and then overnight when the media changes they believe that we must lockdown forever. They also know that a crisis should never go to waste.

                  Democrat/leftist/cathedral command is hard to puzzle out but I suspect the people at the very top probably knew it wasn’t all that dangerous except to geriatrics and people already with serious health problems. Hence them sending sick people to nursing homes to cause panic and hence numerous top Democrats ignoring lockdown measures at their own events.

                • R7 Rocket says:

                  @BC

                  ” How do you know and who faked them? At the time the cathedral was saying COVID was no big deal.”

                  All those Chinese videos of people literally dropping dead in the streets from COVID19 are fake because when COVID19 reached the US, none of those things happened. In Italy, the media recycled photographs from 2014 of rows of coffins.

                  And the Chinese sure like giving millions of dollars to the Bidens… but I’m sure it was just charity, right?😀

              • jim says:

                > But let say he finds out via spying or gossips running their mouths and its never under their roof…

                If the matter is open to doubt, chains wife to a chain that runs between the kitchen and the bedroom, thereby discouraging women from creating the possibility of doubt.

                Eighteenth century attitude and early nineteenth century attitude was that if a woman was behind closed doors with a non kin male for sixty seconds, they had sex.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Sure husbands should be able to keep their wives at home to beat them within limits etc. I of course don’t object to that.

                  But the wife and the adulterer are going to probably have people who are not going to be very happy that they got killed, and humans being the way they are they will rationalize that the psycho bastard husband drove her to it or that the whore wife seduced him and his husband is a psychopathic maniac mad dog…

                  And having no legal recource to avenge the outrage of their female or male relative being killed… well if you think nothing will happen generally than why do you think this.

                • jim says:

                  Just not seeing it.

                  In large parts of the world killing adulters is mighty normal, and it only leads to problems when the state wants to uphold a woman’s right to change her mind on the spur of the moment.

                  Denormalizing and delegitimizing the killing of burglars causes violence, a lot of violence. It does not prevent violence.

                  If we delegitimize and denormalize a woman changing her mind, without legitimising and normalising the killing of adulterers, it will cause rather than prevent, violence.

              • The Cominator says:

                I was wrong about Moochelle because I erred on the side of giving our enemies more credit.

                • Steve Johnson says:

                  No. It demonstrates that you have little understanding of how they actually operate.

                  It fails to understand how they have control of their own primaries – if they wanted Michelle Obama as candidate they can easily make her the winner of the primaries. There’s no need to switch the candidate after the preferred candidate failing to win.

                  It fails to understand how they struggle for power within their group – Michelle would have to fight for the candidacy with the insiders – they’re not going to simply hand it to her because it’s better for the party – and she showed no inclination or ability to do so.

                  It fails to notice that this is a common story that has popped up before about some figure that is considered villainous or is an obvious loser by the opposing party. It’s a story tailored to appeal to the midwit members of the opposition’s base which is why it’s been run out before.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  Michelle as VP nominee was always plausible, and that position really is determined purely by backroom deals. If Hillary can get a Senate seat and Secretary of State for being the boss’ wife, the party of black can do the same for Michelle, who fits the profile of an unthreatening nobody and has the same sort of background.

                  Michelle doesn’t seem as interested in politics as politics is in her. At heart she is a housewife born into an ambitious family that expected her to be a Talented Tenth achiever, who found a way of marrying out of the career track while pretending to still be on it.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Steve Johnson seems to imagine he knows more about the enemy high command than any of us do. Biden was installed as nominee by coordinated times dropoutshe didnt fight for it.

                  As Scott Adam’s had said Kamala the demon bitch was the intended president but she fell on her ass after tulsi (the sole democrat in national office who I’d spare execution for treason) exposed her as too vile even for dem primary voters.

                  The enemy then connived to backdoor her in by using a doddering corrupt geriatric as a front and a combo of fraud + orange man bad would get him in.

                  If they were smarter they’d have abandoned kameltoe…

                • Mr.P says:

                  By the way, do we know for a fact that Moochelle is actually Michael, or that still idle speculation?

                • Steve Johnson says:

                  Steve Johnson seems to imagine he knows more about the enemy high command than any of us do.

                  Go fuck yourself with “us” there.

                  I know more about their high command than *you*. Everyone here does which is why *we* didn’t make the amazingly stupid prediction that you did.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > amazingly stupid

                  1. No enemies to the right.

                  2. A plot to install Michelle as shadow president, then real president, by putting her where Harris is now was a completely credible idea until Harris was named. It would have improved Biden’s position quite a bit. I think the likeliest reason it didn’t happen is lack of interest from Michelle, not from the plotters.

                • Steve Johnson says:

                  A plot to install Michelle as shadow president, then real president, by putting her where Harris is now was a completely credible idea until Harris was named.

                  Which is not what this guy said at all.

                  No enemies to the right

                  He’s not to my right.

                • The Cominator says:

                  No you don’t know about their decision making process you only know they’ve gotten crazier and dumber in recent years. The enemy command and control is about the hardest thing there is to puzzle out. You made the ludicrous claim that the nomination was fought over by insiders whereas the reality was Biden was installed by Obama calling the various candidates coordinating exactly when they would dropout of the race so Biden would become the nominee (including having Elizabeth Warren stay in for a while). Harris tried to fight for it but lost badly, but as she was their preferred candidate they tried to install her anyway using Biden as a geriatric Trojan horse. The nomination was not fought over among insiders the nominees were installed.

                  As the nominees are installed it was a perfectly reasonable thought that they would instead just use some kinda convention Shenanigans and install Michelle Obama who would have been a stronger candidate. But either Michelle wouldn’t do it for any amount of money or they were just stupid. I erred on the side of the enemy doing something smarter than I thought, I was wrong.

                  You seem to keep picking fights with me because you are unhappy that I (the despised sperg poster to you) came out of the Corona bullshit with a lot more credibility and you acted like a coward saying we need to sacrifice Trump’s economy in an election year because you thought this bullshit would kill your parents or something. This is weird because this is just a message board but its also a losing battle for you. All I have to do is say Corona Karen and you lose. Its sort of like as if you were a vocal Nevertrumper.

                  Why don’t you stop picking fights (BC too) and I’ll stop reminding people how badly you disgraced yourself and got duped into aiding our enemies. But if you keep picking fights with me in such a rude and condescending manner I’m going to keep bringing it up.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > what this guy said

                  is irrelevant, boring and wastes comment space. What use Michelle and the DNC might have for each other is a more interesting question. If Biden dropped out anytime after the VP pick is there some reason she can’t be his replacement? Or if he wins and dies a week later? In such scenarios she doesn’t seem like a crazy or extremely unlikely choice — if interested.

                • jim says:

                  Obviously the fix was in for Kamala Harris the whole way.

                  Trouble with Kamala Harris is that she is that woman. You have met that woman many times. She is childless, past fertile age, bloated with whatever power she had, small or large. She wants the world to die with her. She hates everyone and everything.

                  In stills, her makeup and lighting people conceal who she is, but when she moves and speaks, you recognize that woman, whom you have encountered far too many times already.

                  I don’t understand why they chose to go with her. I guess they figured that votes don’t matter any more.

                • Pooch says:

                  The Obamas don’t excite leftists anymore. They are yesterdays news. Barack Obama barely draws a crowd anymore. Meanwhile AOC breaks the livestream record on Twitch.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “I don’t understand why they chose to go with her. I guess they figured that votes don’t matter any more.”

                  I understand why they want her as President but I figured they would substitute someone else when they found out she was too vile to even sell to the Democrat base once Tulsi exposed her for the demonic evil corrupt bitch she is. My mistake was thinking the Democrats would seek a minority figure they could actually sell to the public.

                  They might have figured they could fraud her in but the latest Project Veritas videos where they have a Democrat electioneer merely resort to retail bullying of an old person to change their vote tells me they cannot count on wholesale corruption of the vote count and confirms to me there is a margin of fraud and that they will lose.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  The DNC first had to pick a candidate. Their least-horrible option with substantial insider backing was Biden. They decided that when it became clear Bernie would win without a fix. He is a safe option because he would be an affable figurehead, senile enough to replace when convenient.

                  Biden’s support base includes the pre-Obama black establishment which probably demanded a black running mate, which was certainly not a foreign concept in the DNC anyway. For reasons of pandering and for reasons of Hillary (both appeasing and intercepting her base) they also needed a woman. So as widely reported, the options were basically limited to black women, and if Michelle was not interested that left them with Kamala, a height-weight proportional mulatta, or 200-pound critical race theory angry-loser-seeking-payback DMV lady Stacey Abrams.

                  The die was cast once they were stuck with Biden. As speculated above I think they made lemons from lemonade by using it as trial run, which might well have worked, for the BigTech-MSM populism suppression strategy to replace an actual campaign. Their misfortune is that they are up against Trump, the greatest and most energetic campaigner of our lifetime, and the one person who does not need the media.

                • Steve Johnson says:

                  No you don’t know about their decision making process you only know they’ve gotten crazier and dumber in recent years.

                  Aggressively stupid to make an amazingly stupid prediction then accuse someone else of failing to understand – predictions are a test of your model. If you now think that due to insanity they’re unpredictable that’s an actual description. Instead you were absolutely certain about something happening that was never going to happen and that there was no good reason to think would happen. Revising your prediction now to “they’re inherently unpredictable” is still you being dead wrong before and worse – not learning from your embarrassing mistake.

                  You seem to keep picking fights with me because you are unhappy that I (the despised sperg poster to you) came out of the Corona bullshit with a lot more credibility and you acted like a coward saying we need to sacrifice Trump’s economy in an election year because you thought this bullshit would kill your parents or something. This is weird because this is just a message board but its also a losing battle for you. All I have to do is say Corona Karen and you lose. Its sort of like as if you were a vocal Nevertrumper.

                  You’re the midwit who picked a fight with me because you’re incapable of distinguishing between known facts of infectious disease spread that work for every disease ever discovered and evaluating the response to that.

                  Since you’re incapable of making intelligent distinctions between these two totally different things you attribute a position to me that I never held then pile on insults for anyone holding this position that you created in your mind.

                  You didn’t get C19 predictions right, you partly got the Cathedral reaction right then you attributed an invented position to people who disagreed with you.

                • jim says:

                  > predictions are a test of your model.

                  The Cominator’s predictions were a lot closer to reality than yours.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Fuckoff at least I admit what I did get wrong you are trying to rewrite history where you weren’t wrong even though you got put on a moderation for doubling down on corona faggotry.

                  You’re almost as big a faggot as communist revolutionary, imagine being this butthurt over loss of status on a message board.

                • Steve Johnson says:

                  You really are stupid; I’ll repeat – I never held the position you’re attributing to me – I didn’t hold it then, I don’t hold it now.

                  You are consistently stupid and post voluminously.

                • jim says:

                  This is discourteous.

                  We were all wrong in some ways to some extent on China Flu, but you were stubbornly and spectacularly wrong. The precise details of how you were wrong no longer matter and nobody cares.

                  During the discussion of China Flu, you stubbornly attempted to rewrite reality. When you are wrong, you should update your position, instead of rejecting reality.

                  R7 Rocket summarized your position quite accurately

                  But I don’t mind commenters making wrong predictions about the future. I do mind commenters giving wrong accounts of the recent past.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I don’t give a fuck about the specific nuances of your position (and neither does anyone else) you were in the big picture a faggot corona alarmist. You got modded for being a huge faggot and you are still acting like a faggot you fucking faggot.

                • jim says:

                  Please be civil.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  Meta-discussion is beta, instigation of metadiscussion is distaff, pointless iterated re-instigation is the mark of shill spam attacks.

                  The contest of models is valuable. Eristic thou-said-what is beta and wastes time.

                • BC says:

                  I don’t understand why they chose to go with her. I guess they figured that votes don’t matter any more.

                  She’s easily controlled and will make a great person for the public to blame as the country convulses towards communist revolution. Removing Biden is easy and removing Kamala Harris is almost as easy when she’s served her purpose of destalzing the country to prepare for a Lenin.

                • Steve Johnson says:

                  We were all wrong in some ways to some extent on China Flu, but you were stubbornly and spectacularly wrong. The precise details of how you were wrong no longer matter and nobody cares.

                  During the discussion of China Flu, you stubbornly attempted to rewrite reality. When you are wrong, you should update your position, instead of rejecting reality.

                  I did nothing of the kind and figuring out who can correctly assess things and who can’t is always valuable so it’s worth visiting the broad strokes without getting into irrelevant details. Revisiting my comments I don’t see anywhere where I was “stubbornly and spectacularly wrong”.

                  I’m going to quote from two of my comments from then – everything in there holds up except for the total projected deaths which aren’t really important for the arguments that were taking place (yes, this is wrong as of now and likely will always be wrong because there are actually effective treatments now – if the FDA will let people use them – which they’re very reluctant to but Trump is working to force their hand and I expect him to succeed after the election):

                  First quote is long, second is shorter:

                  The first Cathedral play on this was to *downplay* the severity – “the flu is worse” “this won’t be a pandemic” “stigma is worse than disease” all from official Cathedral publications and use this level to block possible effective measures (masks don’t work, quarantines are outdated and don’t work) that could have prevented this – such as screening entrants from foreign countries that could have come here from China or could have come here from places that were allowing Chinese in. They succeeded at that because although Trump saw through it he didn’t have the backing in his own bureaucracy to act on it until it was too late (or he didn’t see through it until it was too late) – he banned travel from China on the exact day that Yarvin argued that he would never do so.

                  The next Cathedral play was to block testing when it was still possible to confine this to a few cases and isolate the infected [details about how they blocked testing omitted]

                  All these moves were made specifically to seed the country with an unstoppable epidemic – and they succeeded. The play was multifaceted but there were two main motives – first, traditionally in every emergency the Cathedral gets items off its wish-list and second, because they wanted to scapegoat Trump.

                  Now the Cathedral play is to meme the other side into claiming “its just a flu” to get Trump’s supporters to pressure Trump to make some kind of decree which will then later be spun into Trump being responsible for the wave of deaths that follow. Trump’s only real weapon is his popularity with his base (which translates to popularity in the security forces that are run by members of his base for one)

                  Second quote:

                  To be absolutely clear; we should open up because we are incapable of doing this:

                  https://twitter.com/michaelvkim/status/1258987354934538248

                  Millions of people will die as a result [comment from 29 Oct 20 – obviously this number is high as of now – point still stands about apportioning blame]. Those deaths are because we are an ungovernable mess of a country as a result of progressivism – an evil and insane state religion.

                  Saying the deaths are fake, then you open up and there are millions of dead sets you up to be condemned as having willfully killed them.

                  Note that this is exactly the tack that Biden’s handlers have chosen for him and the attack that the hive minded leftie twitter accounts all repeat constantly – “Trump killed x people by failing on COVID”. Yes, that number is lower than the worst case scenarios from back in May. (Although exponential decay to zero hasn’t happened, so it’s not over – and I’ll emphasize again that since nothing USG is capable of doing can take cases to zero *and* because it is run by people who hate badwhite Americans as their religion it will act to maximize those people’s pain rather than even trying to do what is within its meager capacity).

                  None of this was pro-shutdown and in fact was explicitly against.

                • jim says:

                  > everything in there holds up except for the total projected deaths which aren’t really important for the arguments

                  The number of projected deaths is central. and was central to and implicit in all your arguments. And at the time you projected those deaths, it had already become apparent that these projections were false.

                  You were rewriting reality when you wrote that, because it was already apparent China Flu was just another flu, slightly worse than recent flues, but following the same pattern as its many close relatives, and you are rewriting reality now.

                • R7 Rocket says:

                  Steve Johnson’s reply reminds me of how the Governing Body of the Jehovah’s Witnesses responded when their prophecies in 1914, and then 1975 failed to materialize.

                • The Cominator says:

                  So now you’re claiming you didn’t get put on moderation for being a huge ________ (I’ve been asked to be civil) even after Jim just told you that yes that was what happened.

                  You sound like a Teddy Spaghetti gamma caricature… I don’t believe In gammas but double down arguing with the host after being corrected and with quotes… Secret king wins again.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > figuring out who can correctly assess things and who can’t is always valuable

                  Reputation analysis by involved parties is worthless and superfluous. The only rep of any value comes from what everyone can observe silently without comment. Naming the silent consensus in a witty and good natured way (see Aidan M’s comment on Jim on this page) can be useful; campaigning to negatively influence the consensus is beta poison that turns into spam and DOS.

              • Karl says:

                Specifics are fairly easy. A man kills a man. Then there is an investigation. If the killer is never found, file closed. If killer is found, he can claim self defence or defence of life of someone else or defence of property, etc. Just add “he fucked my wife” to the list of legal justifications for killing, like self defense.

                These legal exceptions that justify killing have to be proven or at least be plausible. Nothing special to add another item to the list.

            • Niiiidriveevof says:

              Not unrelated – Herodotus on (the Persian opinion of) the abduction of Helen of Troy. https://imgur.com/a/fAnAWbI

        • Karl says:

          The problem with duelling is that it is then very easy to murder anybody. All you need is a professional duellant who will challenge the victim to a duell for sone made up reason. A professional fighter reliably wins against an amateur.

          If duelling is legal, it is legal to pay the professional duellist for his work.

          • Anonymous 2 says:

            Historically, I believe it was, at least in some countries, permitted for both parties to engage a representative, particularly in such cases as you mention. Hotblooded officers might still think it craven to do so, of course.

            (And if, say, you’re a noble and your honour is injured by some knave, you don’t acknowledge him with a duel, you just have your men thrash him well. In the same vein, the King need never engage in a duel.)

            In the case of cuckolding, I consider the crime passionel to be excusable: If you find them in flagrante, you may in this moment of anger blow them away and nobody will convict you. In less immediate cases, it is at a minimum sufficient for a swift divorce with cause. Perhaps with an ‘A’ branded on her cheek?

          • The Cominator says:

            Seconds cannot be used except by the consent of both parties and I think in most duels many would not be inclined to allow seconds.

    • Green Fields says:

      That’s hilarious

      Where do I have to go to get served burgers from a reader of Jim’s blog?

      Anyways, join the Merchant Marine. Maybe look into the French Foreign Legion if you’re really set on the military and are *actually* fit, although I think you’d probably get denied entry there too.

      Probably easiest to just look for a job in the oil/gas field, but I’ve no first hand experience with that.

    • suones says:

      @Bilge_Pump

      You need to get your act together, friend.

      Now to answer your question, with a bit of background:

      1. There is no such thing as “Red Pill Rage.” This is an anti-concept used to excuse bad behaviour. Learn to take responsibility for your actions.

      2. You absolutely did a bad thing by texting someone who invited you to her birthday party that you would kill her in horrific ways, that too, weeks later. The fact that you weren’t serious about it is reflected in you only getting a misdemeanor conviction. Justice has been served here.

      3. Should this be the end of the world for you? No. When I’m in power, I’ll admit people like you to my Foreign Legion immediately, and send you off to boot camp. Maybe six months of hard training and discipline will straighten you out. That and a tour in Afghanistan. But I’ll give you the chance to prove yourself.

      4. Since the USArmy has rejected you, I sincerely hope and pray they get the transgender lesbian of colour they deserve.

      “Green Fields” gives good practical advice. If you’re really a fighting man, and not just a NEET LARPer, apply to the French Foreign Legion. You’ll have to travel to France, though. It’s more pozzed than in times past, but it’s better than flipping burgers, for a fighting man. If you survive a few years, you can earn an honourable discharge and join any of the numerous mercenary armies private military contractors for good-to-excellent pay.

      If you’re *not* a fighting man, but still physically and mentally tough, (assuming you got rejected from the Navy) you should consider the Merchant Marine. Problem here is, the competition is tough, and the life extremely grueling. Pay is among the best in blue-collar land, though. Same for working in oil and gas, especially on offshore platforms. Most of the jobs are getting automated, and your few co-workers will not be the kind of people you make “friends” with, but again, the pay is good.

    • Your incel rage (if you were getting some you wouldn’t have acted like that) is an evolutionarily adaptive phenomenon that is meant, in the human ancestral environment, to make you kill a man, which would instantly raise your social status and let you get laid, often with his blood still on your hands if your victim owned a woman.

      You, as a man, have a need to vent your stress and anger into violence, which is good and natural. “People like you” is basically every man who isn’t getting laid; if I ruled the world, you would either be channeling your male powers into work, reasonably expecting that respectable social status in the world of men would let you get a wife, or directly using them in military action against an outgroup with the same result.

      That being said, take a full-contact martial art, and/or get a girl and fuck her like you’re trying to kill her with your cock. Both socially acceptable ways of venting your “lupus homini”. And I can’t think of a worse job for an autist than customer service. Get anything fucking else. Even landscaping is more dignified. If only chubby girls are into you, and you’re too autistic to become more chad, then bang chubby girls. Such is a man’s lot in life. I have too much trouble banging women under 120IQ, outside the communications gap, so I only go after smarties.

      • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

        There aren’t enough spergy girls for all spergy men to have one but they do tend to fixate on sex. The social mating dance is complex for them but sex is objective and feels good. Spergy guy can have fun finding a nerdy girl who just wants another nerd to own her 24-7.

        There re both high and average IQ varieties but generally 115+. The further the OP gets from customer service the more of the nerd girls are there. Think videogame testers or something like that.

      • Pooch says:

        When I was transitioning to the red pill, I started with the chubs and worked my way up. Like anything else, practice makes perfect.

        • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

          Diet control (by you) is more difficult for women than virtually any other form of ownership. If you find a chubby girl who respects you enough to go there that can be an even better situation than a slim girl, provided the chubbiness isn’t the result of problems that external control won’t fix.

          • Pooch says:

            Fair point. Never thought of it that way. I just broke up with them when I realized my SMV was high enough to get better.

            • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

              There is nothing wrong with PUA as an analysis of female behavior, but it is bundled together with bogus game theory that essentially says not to consider medium and long time horizons. Short horizon is obvious, long time (should she bear my children?) instinctive and unavoidable, indeed part of PUA is self training to avoid it (100 percent avoidance is neither possible nor desirable). Medium term is where most of the time will be spent and what will mostly determine satisfaction, as well as heavily influencing the long term calculus.

              So, e.g., physical attractiveness < sexual compatibility < potential for elevation of sexual compatibility < genetics and potential (given sex compatibility) as mother and wife.

              • Pooch says:

                Physical attractiveness as the lowest? Isn’t it tightly coupled to genetic fitness?

                • I’m of the opinion that your dick is smarter than you are when it comes to determining genetic compatibility.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  To the extent genetic fitness is important you judge it directly using all information available, including physical appearance (and robustness, strength, medical history etc). But IQ, family genetics and other things aren’t less important to how the children will come out, and IQ in particular is more heritable.

                  Some of the stuff we consider appealing in women leads to things we don’t want in the children, so there’s a trade-off, which leads back to “potential long-term engineerable sexual compatibity” as a major feature making the trade acceptable.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  >dick is smarter than you

                  Properly used brain, together with the opinion of dick, will lead to happier dick than dick thinking by itself, and probably better genetics (evo psych storytelling notwithstanding) and surely a happier stabler marriage.

                • Pooch says:

                  What appealing things would we not one in children (besides being of a lower race)?

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  Roughly, but in some ways literally, we want estrogen in our women and testosterone in our children. Submissive and hypersexual (with us) women tend to be naturally weaker, lower IQ and unstable, basically biological betas. The solution is to pick carefully and induce the necessary behavior, rather than find women who do it too naturally. I guess this is the old story of finding a “good woman” and that of the virgin/whore, i.e., find good stock and conquer it rather than take something that is too easily pliable.

                • Aldento says:

                  >of a lower race

                  Eh, racemixing is okay as long as you kill off enough of the males in her group to prevent them wiping out your lineage.

                • Pooch says:

                  Not if you want high IQ children.

                • When I say “think with your dick” I do not mean “fuck anyone”, simply because pretty much every fertile woman is bangable if not grossly disfigured. I mean that you will get really hot for certain girls out of proportion to their attractiveness, and there is a good reason for that. Your genes are telling you something.

              • jim says:

                > There is nothing wrong with PUA as an analysis of female behavior, but it is bundled together with bogus game theory that essentially says not to consider medium and long time horizons.

                No. The problem is focus on how to operate in defect/defect equilibrium where women have the upper hand.

                The problem is escaping from defect/defect equilibrium.

                If you take defect/defect equilibrium as an inescapable given, then of course you need to concentrate on the short term.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  We should discuss this in more depth after the election/coup.

                  I’m here for Trumpism and foundations of NrX. Going from evopsych to WQ as the fulcrum is good but the evo/PUA side needs some refining.

                  Emma McCune, as mentioned earlier, had the opportunity to mate with a General Butt Naked type of warlord, and did something a bit different.

                  Jeremy Meeks was a beta who committed crime to support an older woman’s children by other men. If billionaire’s daughters were merely looking for the most General Butt Naked-ish thug with whom to have sex and kids, we would see a lot more of them shacking up with drug dealers. There are additional ingredients that take precedence over GBN-ism.

                  Assortative mating is stronger on IQ than on height, and evolution has selected for IQ more than brute GBN-ish strength. This tells us something about women’s (and men’s) sexual wiring.

                • jim says:

                  If that was so, Albert Einstein would have scored, and Richard Feynman would have scored without doing what I did.

                  Hot chicks can find their way to the prison cell of some guy in jail for rape, murder, and cannibalism, but they could not find their way to Feynman’s office, and they cannot find their way to the corner office at the top of the skyscraper.

                  If unicorns existed, Bezos would not have had the troubles that he had, and Richard Feynman would have had coeds showing up in his office asking for some private tutoring.

                  Lord Byron was a smart guy, and he cleaned up, and Odysseus was a smart guy, and he cleaned up. But the reason that “Penelope” is the eponym of faithfulness is that Odysseus was also General Butt Naked. A much smarter General Butt Naked, but still General Butt Naked.

                  Trump is and was, rich, powerful and famous, but that did not in itself bring chicks to him. He set up beauty pageants to bring chicks to him, and then put on a performance for them. And his performances had much in common with my own, though his were considerably grander.

                  Similarly, rich men who fund ballet. Mothers don’t have their daughters taught ballet so that their daughters will perform for audiences, but so that rich men will have the opportunity to perform for their daughters.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Drug dealers have no problem getting pussy if it weren’t a business that everyone gets busted in and only the politically connected are allowed to operate but only as rats (which is why the mafia leadership banned it) I’d probably do it.

                • Pooch says:

                  I know Jim likes to use Jeremy Meeks as example, but the Dan Bilzarian-types are the most in-demand for the highest SMV females. He has carefully built his persona over the years to exploit this demand.

                  Millionaire, tall, muscular physique with low body fat, CEO (doesn’t matter if the companies are bogus), ex-military with extensive knowledge and collection of firearms and large caliber weapons, throws massive parties with carefully tuned male-female ratios, connections to the rich and famous, and army of followers who are also high value individuals themselves yet treat him as the ultimate alpha.

                  He is not a criminal and does not commit violence but clearly the female hind-brain can see in a shit hits the fan scenario, Dan Bilzerian is overwhelmingly capable of leading a large gang into a lethal force on force situation.

                • Not Tom says:

                  if it weren’t a business that everyone gets busted in … I’d probably do it.

                  If it weren’t that kind of business then it wouldn’t get the pussy. It’s not the drugs they’re after, it’s the kind of man who’s willing to risk getting busted.

                  Emma McCune, as mentioned earlier, had the opportunity to mate with a General Butt Naked type of warlord, and did something a bit different.

                  Great, a NAWALT argument.

                  We only describe what the female hindbrain wants, which is discerned by the revealed preferences of women as a group. Don’t pester us with irrelevant snowflake arguments – obviously women don’t always, 100% of the time, end up with murderers and drug dealers, partly because of low availability and partly because the other men around them and their own social conditioning get in the way.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Its not risk its a virtual guarantee that you get busted unless you are at the wholesale distribution level with intelligence agency connections.it.

                  Virtual guarantee of getting busted and the people who stay in it and stay out of jail are all rats, this is why the mafia tried to ban any of their members and any direct associates from getting involved in the drug business, Frank Costello and Carlo Gambino understood this about the drug business back in the 50s. Even if a dealer is smart they get dumbass degenerate addict who gets caught and rats out the dealer… and so it goes.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > a NAWALT argument

                  No. I argue that AWALT with a different T than Jim, or the local Jimian community riff on Roissy. I argue that McCune and the heiress who had Meeks’ child are absolutely typical in their mating behavior, not exceptions that are specially chosen to refute a theory.

                  Assortative mating and what-evolved-further are the ultimate in revealed preferences.

                • Not Tom says:

                  Assortative mating was a hypothesis that didn’t pan out very well. I don’t know why you keep referencing it as though it’s established fact, let alone evidence for your not-ackshually-NAWALT idea.

                  If it were true in a meaningful sense then we’d see average IQ going up, or at least see high-IQ castes forming. We’re seeing the opposite.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > Hot chicks can find their way to the prison cell of some guy in jail for rape, murder, and cannibalism,

                  Except that they don’t. They find their way to the prison cell of guy who is *getting major media coverage* of his dastardly crimes, just as Jeremy Meeks became socially acceptable to billionaire’s daughter after becoming celebrated as a male model and *redeemed* criminal. Actual present criminal would not have gotten him very far, as seen in his actual loserish lack of options when he was one. Rapemurdermayhem alone gets you a prison cell with Bubba and not much female interest, statistically speaking.

                  > but they could not find their way to Feynman’s office, and they cannot find their way to the corner office at the top of the skyscraper.

                  I have lower SMV, lower office value, etc than Feynman and they did find their way to me and my office, the stereotypical office hours visits being very common, without any effort on my part or even much awareness of the pattern until it repeated enough times. I suspect Feynman, when he taught at schools with large numbers of women as students, was quite the office hour magnet, and if he was not, there was some other reason besides women not being interested.

                  Einstein was relative spergy and solipsistic so nerd girls would have been his natural market. He was, indeed, the only one of the boys at ETH to snag the physics girl, with whom he fairly quickly had children. As described at length in earlier threads, that’s how the top-IQ STEM mating market works.

                  I will have more time for this discussion in a few weeks, cannot promise to answer everything at the moment.

                • jim says:

                  I know what women want.

                  Einstein, Trump, Bezos, and Feynman were famous, and it did not do anything significant for them.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > Assortative mating was a hypothesis that didn’t pan out very well.

                  It pans out very well empirically, for many traits beyond IQ, in large data sets. Perhaps you are arguing that it does not pan out after controlling for factors out of the woman’s control, such as family education level. But (Jeremy Meeks again) that assumes the conclusion, that if a woman prefers the General Butt Nakeds and thuggish Jeremies who somehow have qualifed to be in their selected assorted social circle, she does so without any agency in choosing to limit herself to that circle rather than go prowling the demimonde for drug dealers.

                  > If it were true in a meaningful sense then we’d see average IQ going up, or at least see high-IQ castes forming. We’re seeing the opposite.

                  We’d see IQ variance going up, not necessarily the mean. Assortitivity means dummies get stuck with dummies, short with short, weaklings with weaklings, etc. It’s a separate matter from the relative fertility of the high and low IQ (height, strength, wealth). As argued in earlier threads, what we have is high castes forming, together with dysgenic lowering of the mean the last 100-200 years. The prediction would be rising average IQ peaking in the 1800s and then staying stable or declining, which is what happened.

                • jim says:

                  > > Assortative mating was a hypothesis that didn’t pan out very well.

                  > It pans out very well empirically, for many traits beyond IQ, in large data sets.

                  I am smart. I know painfully well what women want.

                  Smarts, like fame and wealth, only do you good when you use them correctly. And I see people using them correctly and I see people using them incorrectly.

                  You don’t see the guys funding the ballet trying to be famous. It would not do them any good. And wealth is not doing them any good except that, like Trump, they use it to stage their performance.

                  Game is a creation of very smart people, who autistically studied what women want, rather than rocket ships or paleontology. And demonstrating your smarts is not on their list.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > Lord Byron was a smart guy, and he cleaned up, and Odysseus was a smart guy, and he cleaned up. …. A much smarter General Butt Naked, but still General Butt Naked.

                  This is my point above stated in different words: take precedence over the GBN-ness.

                  To avoid the vagaries of words let’s consider algorithms for mate selection. Which one do you consider a likelier description of what went on in Emma McCune’s hindbrain when she landed in war-torn Africa:

                  1. Weigh some combination of GBN brutality, IQ, looks, etc to rank potential mates and take/pursue the best ones she could get by that metric

                  2. Among the Africans who meet the standards of her ancestral civilization (e.g. education, absence of revolting practices, sufficient wealth, fluency in English), pick the best one based on the GBN, Quien Es Muy Macho scale or a similar scale incorporating a few other criteria as in #1.

                  3. Among the Africans above a relatively high threshold on GBN scale, pick based on some mix of non-GBN characteristics, but not requiring that the end result meets bourgeois European standards.

                  I’m saying 3, the GBN-first, marry the cannibal theory is wrong, and 2 fits better than 1.

                • Not Tom says:

                  I will have more time for this discussion in a few weeks, cannot promise to answer everything at the moment.

                  Well golly gee willikers, I don’t know if I can wait that long. Won’t you please grace us with your in-depth knowledge of the blue pill, professor?

                  Look, there’s nothing to answer, you just refuse to see what’s in front of you. Female students going after their professors is the same phenomenon as females going after broke musicians and mass murderers. Violence, attention from a big crowd, and adult female preselection are all ancestral alpha signals; intelligence is not, and handsomeness/muscularity are just barely.

                  That ridiculous looking cauliflower-eared Florida school shooter (I’ve forgotten his name by now) got tons of female attention, and he wasn’t “made socially acceptable”. Jeremy Meeks is just a fun and well-known example, and it’s starting to get very irritating when people insist on nitpicking over the details of him specifically. “Oh but he’s also a model” “oh but the media loves him” yeah whatever, he’s just an avatar for the observable pattern, you could replace Meeks with any hardened criminal and see the same result.

                • Not Tom says:

                  what we have is high castes forming

                  What we have is no such thing. We have crashing elite fertility in IQ shredders, where many smart people are brought together as part of some school, corporation or other institution but don’t mate.

                  Assortative mating hypothesis predicted mating. That smart people tend to end up in rough geographical proximity is not what is predicted at all.

                  Perhaps it “would have” been proven correct if we had the technology and mobility of the 21st century with the culture of the 18th, but that’s just another hypothesis (one that’s untestable at present), not a defense of the original.

                • Pooch says:

                  muscularity are just barely

                  Blue pill. Muscularity tracks very highly on female sexual preference. Females are instinctively aware that muscles correlate highly with testosterone and the capacity to inflict higher levels of violence. I can say first hand, as many others have, that the difference in female attention pre and post lifting is striking. This is way the Red Pill community advocates “Just lift” as step 1 in swallowing the pill before even thinking about approaching women.

                • Not Tom says:

                  I can say first hand, as many others have, that the difference in female attention pre and post lifting is striking.

                  You’re talking to someone who lifts. It’s not like I’ve been cagey about it. But it really does only give a slight advantage; it helps get noticed, but will not compensate for beta signaling. Whereas adult female preselection and holding a crowd’s attention can compensate for a great deal of lousy game – not unlimited, but a lot.

                  What lifting does – and high T in general – is improve men’s opinions of themselves and in many cases their libido, and women can sense that incredibly will. But if you can cultivate the dark triad traits without lifting, it’ll work just as well.

                • Mister Grumpus says:

                  @Not Tom:
                  “What lifting does – and high T in general – is improve men’s opinions of themselves…”

                  That really is it, isn’t it?

                  “I’ve proven myself to be worth dedication and effort from myself, so I’m worth dedication and effort from you, too.”

                • Pooch says:

                  it helps get noticed, but will not compensate for beta signaling

                  That’s fair. I will say muscularity is highly-correlated with high T and alpha qualities so it is generally a good proxy for women to screen for alpha. It’s rare to see a heavily muscled man who spends a lot of time lifting iron then exhibit beta faggy behavior after you meet them (although it does happen).

                  Because they are so closely correlated (and women instinctively know this), a man is really fighting an uphill battle if he is going to game women without lifting. He is likely going to face harsher shit tests to prove he’s not beta. This is not because he “thinks” higher of himself. It’s strictly based on his appearance. Height also seems to have a similar effect (taller men face less harsh shit tests).

                  Actual observed violence and female pre-selection, as you stated, is likely much more heavily weighed in the female equation but I thinks it’s false to say muscularity is not a significant factor (it’s a good indicator on capacity to inflict future violence).

  12. Calvin says:

    For whatever it’s worth, Barrett’s in with 52-48. Only one Republican Senator against.

    • Strannik says:

      It’ll be important for Trump as he goes into his second term agenda.

    • BC says:

      Victory is all but assured.

    • Not Tom says:

      Barnes apparently expects her to be a Roberts type, and notes that she was being heavily promoted by exactly the same people who promoted Roberts.

      Anyway, she’ll certainly be better than RBG. I just wish we didn’t have to settle for half-measures. I’ll change my mind on ACB if she helps overturn the PA election meddling/fraud, and/or any of the lower court rulings supporting indefinite and unlimited Covid lockdowns.

      • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

        It looks like Barnes misread the lockdown case, judging from his Twitter debate with Shipwreckedcrew. ACB was limited to the actual arguments presented by the litigants, the plaintiffs used a poor one, and her views on emergency executive power did not much come into play. Barnes tried to read more into it between the lines but there isn’t a red flag raised just yet by that case. It’s true that the recommendation by Federalist society is worrying, but if she decides the election that’s more important. (Though fighting the civil war now is less bloody than in 2-4 years, so Trump “losing” on lawfare could be better in a sense.)

        • Not Tom says:

          The Federalist Society recommendation doesn’t concern me… much. Gorsuch has been a good judge, despite some folks here still wound up over one of his dozens of cases. Kav has been OK, more like a Rhenquist type than a Scalia or Thomas but basically reasonable.

          The red flag is the cheerleading from neocons, Never Trumpers and cuckservatives. Most of them had little to say about Gorsuch, and were quick to pile on with the deranged Kav conspiracy theories; yet they’re all extremely enthusiastic about Barrett, and in fact many clearly wanted her and pushed her when Kav was nominated.

          Maybe she really is that unicorn who somehow makes both the real right and fake right happy, but so far every time we’ve been promised anything like that, it’s proven to be a trojan horse. So, we’ll see. Like I said, we shouldn’t hold Barrett’s appellate rulings against her if she reverses them on SCOTUS, because it’s true that appellate judges are supposed to avoid creating “splits” with other equal courts – but the election is right around the corner so there isn’t much time remaining.

          • The Cominator says:

            Clarence Thomas being the one swearing her in is a good sign that she at least plans to stay on our side throughout the election rulings…

          • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

            The Outer Party fake-right were drooling to have her because she’s a woman and a relatable Midwestern soccer mom which makes her more “confirmable”, i.e., a commodity that can gain them approval from Inner Party instead of (via Kav) an acid attack to the face. To an extent they wanted her specifically because she always rules for the Chamber of Commerce but mostly they surrendered to the presumption that SCOTUS must be filled in the correct race and sex pecking order. It’s not necessarily any ideological problem on her part.

            Her pozzed adoption(s) and atrocious comments about crying over George Floyd are more disturbing.

            • jim says:

              That is just optics.

              The position she took at her confirmation, and at the Senate hearings, is solid red meat.

              If we could have gotten away with red meat from a man with well behaved children and (thus a patriarchal marriage) that would have been vastly better, but don’t whine when we are getting solid red meat.

              Not getting solid red meat with the right plate around it until we move in on the state religion.

              • Not Tom says:

                She hasn’t ruled on any SCOTUS cases yet. There’s no red meat, white meat, textured vegetable protein or any other form of actual or simulated meat. We’ll see what kind of meat it is when the election litigation starts.

                • BC says:

                  Irrational confidence will get you farther than rational pessimism. The Dems are acting like this is a huge victory for us. I’ll take it as that until there’s evidence to the contrary.

                • Not Tom says:

                  Irrational confidence will get you farther than rational pessimism.

                  Yes – confidence (or optimism) in oneself, in one’s own abilities or prospects for success. The expression is supposed to mean that you shouldn’t fear failure, and to go out and take a chance instead. If things go south, you might be able to adapt, and if you fail outright, you’ve probably still improved some skill.

                  But you’re now talking about the actions of other people – people whom we don’t know and can’t influence – which is not irrational “confidence” at all, it’s irrational trust. And irrational trust features on the headstones of a great many right-wing movements, institutions, careers and in some cases lives.

                  Be as trusting as you like, if that’s your bag, but I don’t do “transitive trust” – just because Trump is ourguy, doesn’t mean everyone he appoints to the bench or the cabinet will be. And we still live in an extremely low-trust political environment.

          • jim says:

            > Maybe she really is that unicorn who somehow makes both the real right and fake right happy, but so far every time we’ve been promised anything like that, it’s proven to be a trojan horse

            The outer party, the fake right, was drooling for her because of optics – she is a soccer mum. We can let them have the optics they want.

            So far no trojan horses among Trump supremes. Some of Gorsuch’s decisions have bent to the progressive winds a bit far for someone who claims to be a textualist – in particular there is no textual basis for his rulings on sexual orientation – that is purely kissing the asses of faggots. the courts making progressive holiness into law. But he is no trojan horse.

            What matters is the cases on ballot box stuffing, and he was on the right side there.

            The recent case on who gets to count the vote was pure up and down whose-side-are-you-on politics, and he was on the right side.

    • Atavistic Morality says:

      You know I don’t hold any sympathies towards them but, I mean;

      exit polls showed that 78.24% of people had voted to approve a rewrite, while 21.76% rejected the change.

      You gonna kill 80% of the population? We need someone to do manual labor.

      • The Cominator says:

        They weren’t 80% of the population when Pinochet took over.

        Leftism is like a disease out of power it spreads in people’s minds… in power people often come to hate it but its hard to get rid of till it burns itself out then.

        • Not Tom says:

          They weren’t 80% of the population when Pinochet took over.

          Doesn’t that contradict rather than support the “Suharto solution”? Many of those people supported Pinochet and were on the right when Pinochet was in power. Now that the left is taking power, they support the left. They don’t really want to kill you, like the elites do, they’re just weak-willed, unsophisticated and easily confused. They follow the strong horse.

          Would you bury all the Obama voters who broke for Trump in 2016 and continue to do so in 2020? If not, then why would you do it to the opposite flip-floppers? Same fickleness in both cases. The ones who need to be taught a lesson aren’t the fools who vote for Biden (at least, not most of them), but the ones who are doing damage control for him in the media, who helped set up and run his little “business empire”, and who hatched the Spygate conspiracy. They are the ones who are leftists in the true sense of the word (coordinated defection) and they’re a considerably smaller group.

          • The Cominator says:

            Nah they got old and their children educated by the left especially about how horrible Pinochet was now support the left. If Pinochet helicoptered 3 million leftists instead of 3000 including the entirety of the priesthood except rightists would not have happened.

            • Green Fields says:

              Or Pinochet could have put in place a rightist education system (secured a friendly Priestly class), and only ~3000 people would have needed to die.

            • Not Tom says:

              So if they were not educated by the left, would have turned out okay, yes?

              In other words it’s not a problem with the gene pool – at least not exclusively.

              • The Cominator says:

                No not exclusively genetic (its memetic with certain genetics and people who feel aggrieved and also self righteous people being more susceptible) but its hard to eradicate the religious mind virus without letting it get into power once it reaches a certain % of the population.

                And I think that once the mind virus is present in an individual well a very large % of them are very hard to cure by any other method besides having them live under ABSOLUTE leftist rule for a long long time.

                So yes wiping out the leftist priesthood absolutely necessary but if a large % of your population outside the priesthood believes (as do a lot of people in New England California and various Urbanities in the US) it needs to be wiped out there as well. You probably don’t need to helicopter all of them (outside the priesthood) but you need to helicopter a lot of them. Certainly anyone who shows signs of really believing after media sources suddenly become unfavorable to progressivism.

                Also note we DO NOT HAVE our own priesthood and religion ready at this point… we need to create a vacuum and hold it in place with fire and blood until we can install something suitable maybe old style Christianity.

        • Pooch says:

          If the Bioleninism theory is true (and I tend to think it’s not and is blue pilled) then purging the left would be eugenic and the case that it should be done becomes quite strong, but if not then it’s a weak case.

          • Green Fields says:

            Have you seen pictures of Antifa? We’re reaching levels of mutagenic load which shouldn’t even be possible

            • Pooch says:

              Don’t you think some of the white Antifa would be normal people if under the control of a sane state religion?

          • Not Tom says:

            It helps me to think of bioleninism as an analytical tool and emergent property, rather than a deliberate strategy. Bioleninism is just what you get when you promote the people with the highest incentive to cheat in a former white Christian meritocracy now overwhelmed with aliens and mystery meat, and give them even more powerful incentives to cheat even more. It’s just the left being the left, but it’s what the left looks like in a multiracial democracy with strong Puritan sentiment.

            It’s similar to Sailer’s Coalition of the Fringes: descriptive but not normative. Predictions that treat it as normative tend to get very wrong results.

      • BC says:

        That’s the power of elite persuasion. The people have never been anything more than the persuaded.

  13. Strannik says:

    They’re turning on Harris now, the liberal media is;

    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/very-bad-30-seconds-for-kamala-close-your-mouth/

    Another sign that the bad guys are is disarray and Trump will win.

    • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

      In hindsight, it possible that ever since Sanders emerged as the overwhelming favorite to win the primary vote, with no electable alternative available, the DNC shifted focus to Congressional and state races, and to using the POTUS+VP race as a live beta test of the only model that can compete with America First populism. BigTech controls to hide AF popularity, media as a campaign replacement (conventional campaigning doesn’t work against populist insurgency), and drastic escalation of vote fraud. Harris is a strategic choice in some respects, establishment far left versus the poison pill AOC-Sanders left, but might be nothing more than an expendable placeholder while they get the machinery working and gear up for the next couple of elections. If they win, it’s an unexpected third term for Obama, and if not, they learn what to modify.

      • Strannik says:

        That seems to be the most comprehensive and probable explanation that fits the known facts. It gives them the ability once this election cycle is over to clean house one way or another and decide if they want to actually win future elections, or spiral down into nothingness from ideological madness.

        • Pseudo-chrysostom says:

          When you’re riding the tiger, the most certain constant is adaptation to uncertainty.

          What can look like a chain linked master plan in retrospect, so often, is from moment to moment felicitious decision making in knowing how to turn an advantage towards your goal out of how events play out, however they play out.

  14. Strannik says:

    And now this;

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/chinese-group-behind-release-biden-tapes-claim-bidens-offered-cia-agents-china-went-missing-2010-2012/

    Somebody wants Biden and the Liberals to lose, and it’s some people from the ”Deep State” too I suspect.

    • jim says:

      Trump has people too.

      Far fewer than the deep state has, and they have far less practical experience in regime change, but his people have the enormous advantage of unity of command.

      His people are less reliable than their people, but his people know who the boss is, and their people do not.

      • Strannik says:

        Unity of command is absolutely crucial, and it’s necessary components; loyalty to that boss, and belief in what they are doing with the vision he has for them and for the country.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        I can’t get over this. I’m still intrigued by your take that the Cathedral is both centralized, yet also shadowy. There are just a few “popes” in there, somewhere, but no one for sure knows who they are, especially if the Clintons aren’t them anymore.

        I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m just saying you make sense, and also don’t make sense, at the same time, which means I don’t truly understand this yet.

        Any and every time you take out to elaborate on this, I always appreciate.

        I read somewhere that even Pol Pot kept a pretty low profile once his takeover was complete, I presume to keep from being targeted and denounced by his own people.

        I’m such a clueless bumpkin. If you said to me “I’ll lead a diffuse army of treacherous mutual defectors and take over the world” I’d have no idea how or why one could actually do that, especially if one could just work a job and hang out with his friends instead.

        • jim says:

          Enormous amounts of power have slipped into the hands of the presidency and judiciary – while the power of the president has diminished, and the legislature, if it has power, which is far from clear, seems less and less interested in exercising it.

          So we have about a thousand plus very powerful people.

          How can a mob so large keep its act together, how can they act as one?

          Lacking an official executive, and clear formal and explicit lines of authority, such cohesion as they have can only come from common adherence to the state religion – the holy faith of holy Harvard.

          So in the long run, over time, power rests in Harvard and Yales peer review. They are the ones that make up stories, and when they change their story, everyone falls into line instantly. But when their change in story involves a change in program, a change in what the government does, it takes decades to filter down to cops kicking in your door.

          So in the short run, a large anarcho tyrannical mob rules in an incohesive and disorderly fashion, and in the long run, a considerably smaller anarchy tyrannical mob, a synod of bishops of the holy faith of Harvard, rules in a somewhat less incohesive and disorderly fashion.

          The ruling elite is evidently a quite small group, but it is equally evidently too large a group to get its act together easily. We see impressive swiftness in everyone abruptly signing on to the same story overnight, but during the Obama years, we failed to see similar discipline and cohesion on foreign policy. The ship of state drifted rudderless towards the shoals of war.

    • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

      The MSM’s sudden discovery of Victorian modesty, propriety, and delicacy has been a wonder to behold. It is the gift of all gifts. The collapse of Russiagate and the rise of Spygate should, in theory, have ended their business model, but those are complicated webs of bureaucrats doing obscure official intrigue, whereas not covering a mountain of videotaped blackmail evidence held by China on a Presidential candidate 10 days before an election is something any member of the public can immediately understand. Their singularity at hand. Great is the schadenfreude.

    • Encelad says:

      Even Wikipedia has dropped any pretense of trying to look objective and labeled it as a conspiracy theory.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukraine_conspiracy_theory

      • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

        Wikipedia has been converged for years and fully openly so since Trump’s election if not earlier. They have dozens of pages in the category “conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump”. Anything Biden-related requires maximum editor privileges to modify so only the high ranking DNC loyalists can modify it. Lots of leftist shills are paid to edit.

  15. Strannik says:

    It’s looking worse for Biden and his campaign, just as I and others thought it would. More email and video leaks, more video of VP Biden himself talking funny and yelling at Trump supporters in Pennsylvania, calling them ”Chumps”. It looks and sounds bad. The guy is senile; this is elder abuse. What kind of family does this to a man?

    • bjorn says:

      If you truly believed in the righteousness of your cause, can you really tell me you wouldn’t sacrifice your elderly relative in that way, to prevent what you believe to be calamity on a civilizational scale? I’d do it with tears in my eyes, but with no regrets whatsoever. There’s simply too much at stake to make any other choice.

      The only reason Biden being elder-abused is unjustifiable, is because his family is doing it to keep alive the party of the satanic Eloi-Morlock alliance.

      • jim says:

        I have often said he who would sacrifice a child to attain world peace and cure malaria, will sacrifice the child and forget he planned to attain world peace and cure malaria.

        Right conduct begins at home.

        • Strannik says:

          Well said Jim. One doesn’t do evil that ”good” may come of it. That’s the reasoning of the Enemy, of our alleged foes. We are not like them. Or at least, we shouldn’t mirror them.

      • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

        Biden seems happy enough running for office that I don’t call it abuse. He has known nothing but politics for so long that he confuses his life history with lines he has spoken (Ronald Reagan did the same). He craves power and ever higher office, which can mean only one thing after being VP. He is not a nice man, but affable enough and so well practiced at politics that whatever is in his ROM is enough to function as a campaigner, with the help of some handlers. The effort may be slowing his decline.

        He might become upset giving a concession speech, but Hillary didn’t have to do that and if it’s Joe’s nap time he won’t either.

  16. David 'The Diversity Mastermind' Lammey says:

    All lives are equal
    But black lives are more equal than others

    St George of the 6 Felonies looked exactly like one of the more, err, protruding jawed, upturned lip pupils. So I knew what even a mainstream search engine would turn up if I put CRIMINAL after his name.

    1 – armed robbery
    2 cocaine
    3 cocaine
    4 cocaine
    5 armed robbery
    6 meth

    My HoD at a Good Catholic School told me they have less & less control over who comes into their own school. Incompetent diverchittey hires are forced on them by (((The Creep State))). Think of Cuckstain as a Palermo Mafioso, using its TLMTTI Power to bully, racketeer & pimp the dumb goy. Even private sector is effected – state power is massive & to get contracts from public srctpr , hr yentas are compulsory. A company couldn’t survive even in the PS hiring only competent NWM. Then their are gormless cucked companies *cough*!!!

    Blacks are the most indulged, mollycoddled & over-promoted group in history. We know this, but even I was shocked at the extent the (((CREEP STATE))) abuses the freedom of White Men, esp wrt Blacks, whilst working as a TA in a supposedly ‘Good Catholic School’ in Londonistan.

    When new vacancy – Asoans recommend Asians, Blax recommend blax, rats recommend anyone but NWM. Only White People are gormless enough to not stand up for themselves. Asked Asian after work drinks about boss – as I suspected he had utter contempt for the disloyal White hags who allow own dept to become TW SHC. They value loyalty + despise these judasrat Karen’s.

    It was like that Chris Jackson article at AmRen. Was shocked when my HoD told us before an upcoming (((OFSTED))) inspection:

    ‘The last inspection criticized us for the underperformance of black boys.’

    Let me repeat: THERE IS A SPECIFIC SECTION OF THE GVT DEMANDING SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR ONE & ONLY ONE DEMOGRAPHIC!!!CC

    WTF should White Schools / teachers / pander to black boys? Obviously teachers aren’t closet BNP + KKK members; most are PC leftists (even in GCSs, tho less so than others). Working in that environment, it became clearer to me the Creep State Rats are basically mafia thugs, abusing & racketeering against anything not enforcing The Cathedral. Basically, each school is intimidated into worrying it’s racist, gives special treatment to black boys, exam boards over mark them – RESULT – The extreme thuggishness & low IQ of BBs is partially disguised.

    Creep State Rats also imposed ‘diverchittey’ recruitment on the school. Part of my attraction to the job was it was my old school / Catholic school. In London, Catholic schools was a good way of escaping too many darkies. BUT NOT NOW. Even tho poor Irish (+spanish, portugese, italiab, polosh) peasants like my mother helped make the school, no longer can we maintain our own demographic. Senior staff informed me they have no power over our own school. Creep State Rats impose third worlders on us. And it doesn’t matter how useless they are. W/o exception, there wouldn’t be a single black member of staff on merit!

    A common trick they use to disguise TW stupidity with the usual rat-dindu tag team vs YT. (Eg principal of The Goldberg’s + ‘Dr’ Holly on Dance Moms MO+HLS=AA.) One very black biology teacher was ‘Dr X’. I’ve long known that TCS’s LMTTI credentializes The Great Replacement. I suspected the common dynamic:

    1) Look for clever black
    2) Can’t find one
    3) Pick RELATIVELY clever one
    4) Gets crappy undergrad from 3rd rate poly
    5) Rat infestation of higher ed
    6) Education (like all humanities) postgrads = whiney poz BS
    7) Black doctor
    8) Imposed on White School in magical thinking this makes him smart
    9) It doesn’t
    10) Can’t sack him bc WAAAAAAYCIZUM

    Knew this was the case. Asked a fellow supersmart TA (doing PhD in bio at night) at works drinks. He says to me his biology knowledge is weak & regularly makes elementary mistakes in lessons with 14YOs!

    My colleague was a biased stale pale male?
    No. My colleague was a yellow Filipino!!!!

    But this man wasn’t the MoS who shocked me about Rat malevolence. Just dumb incompetent. A nasty SJW witch of an English ‘teacher’ took even someone as already RP’d as me. An utterly repellent personality & demeanor that viscerally repulsed everyone – pupils, teachers, TAs. Think that ghastly frizzy shrew on the SkyNews debate panel show ((((½ black)))) in looks & politics. Everyone HATED her.

    The Deep State manipulation was most obvious with this hysterical shrew. You could hear her classes from anywhere on the same floor, such was the kids’ visceral disgust with her obvious PC hectoring &her total ignorance of disciplinary techniques. For obvious reasons she taught lower ability classes & younger ones – Part of the reason for dumbing down of the curriculum is simply the stupidity of the AA darkies TCS forces on even ‘Good Catholic Schools’ who don’t want them. We had a huge dept – 10+ LSD staff, yet I noticed this particular vile shrew almost NEVER had any of us TAs in her class. The low ability class she taught had lots of statemented pupils. The only possible explanation is the rats don’t get hi on their own supply & wanted to cover up diversitardity & foist darkies on good White institutions DESPITE KNIWING FULL WELL THE INCOMPETENCE!!!

    I was only in her class twice – about 2 weeks apart – so there is NO WAY her hysteria could be blamed on pmt. I generally got to know PMT & none of her behaviours was consistent with it. One of the poems she taught was the very definition of cringey, exactly like that hilarious:

    Mama was chocolate
    Dadda was vanilla
    Me is better

    Crud from Chris Jackson. It was a poem that was obviously chosen by her, as it had ZERO literary value, & was crudely written & demonstrated no sophisticated rhythm or metaphor. Something like:

    A bit of Bangladeshi
    A bit of Jamaica
    A bit of Nigerian
    Make modern Britain

    Exactly what the Creep State wants – no education, no culture, no civility, no quality. Just crude indoctrination. Chris Jackson is right – Homeschool your kids.

    Not once in my time at school – as a pupil or TA – did I hear Beckett or Shaw mentioned. Curriculum is rigidly controlled by pozzed (OFSTED); All about cringey, mawkish black lesbian female authors ’empowering’ w/o reference to quality. No wonder poor w/c White lads fail! 3 main purposes to Cuckstain education:

    1 social engineering
    2 social engineering
    3 social engineering

    We all know 1984 should be compulsory as it reflects today. Not bs by mawkish ch!tyy Shakespeare about lovely widdle fairies running round magic kingdoms sprinkling potions. Don’t get me started on the sanctimonious POS sleeping pill to kill a mockingbird! History is pozzed to + you’d think the Suffragettes were the most important!

    White Boys KNOW they’re being cucked over. Took some statemented/SEN lads for help in a separate room. I never told any of them my politics, yet I had to beg them to stop telling me nog jokes! I was flattered they felt comfortable enough to to that with me. They had a visceral consciousness (even tho most of them were of lesser ability) that the elite rats & dindu thugs like Sanchez/Stirling got priority over them. If ‘No Justice, No Peace’ isn’t the very definition of a chimpout what is! Yet msm tries to portray cultmarxism as ‘young & trendy’. BS! It’s poncey liberal 50+ White ppl who swallow it. WcWM know exactly that they are discriminated against. I really hope those lads weren’t so open with 1 DSR plant in my Dept. Anglo name, not the repulsive anti-nature recessive features of Miriam margargoylis. Many other class teachers tribal. They don’t make it obv, so they needed to be careful about the yebta perma fixture in my dept. Anyone RP knows who she’d favour in a conflict between obligations to goyboys & her chance to get the Diverchittey PColice involved!!!!!!

    Deep down these White lads & dindu baller thugs threatening NO JUSTICE NO PEACE (chimpout) know that dindus + rats can’t compete with Civilized Europeans on merit, so use violence to intimidate, since Whites score higher in civilization, looks, personality, IQ, organization, creativity etc…. NO JUSTOCE NO PEACE – translated into plain English:

    Listen cracka, we’re gonna mess up yo civilization, even tho we’d never dream of going back to our mudhuys, unless you promote 100x higher than our ability, & ruin your own traditions, of free speech, civility,peace ……!!!

    They’re not interested in justice; they’re interested in maintaining their Black Supremacist privilege via distraction. Everyone knows black players get all the major decisions against White players, such is msm & referee PC manipulation. That’s why Sterling/Sanchez keep up their intimidation. Just ask a member of the French Empire of Africa XI & his scandicuck ref. Small simian brain, long simian arms – yeah play basketball if you wanna, I’m so terrified of you calling me racist & chimpingout that you can bouncwyball from trees!!!!!

    Anyone who thinks the dindus are organizing this themselves know nothing about the NAACP. Another vparasite race at the top of society with high IQ & ratlike cunning run pantifa/blm – I see a giant ‘Russian’ Nose growing like Pinocchio from Stamford bridge.

    The main reason for school racial segregation isn’t even IQ pt competence – it’s maturation rates. White kids can be bullied by thugs, tho chronologically same age, is actually aa lot more mature & streetwise. A toxic mix when added to teachers brainwashed to favour ethnic types & (((msm))) psyops making them wanna imitate thugs. HOMESCHOOL!!!

    The kids all called this hysterical new student Englush pgce SJW ‘Avatar’. Never met anyone who elicited such a visceral contempt as her, such was her shtewish, hystetical, incompetrnt, transparent attempts to hector sjw issues into all w/o tact or humour, as a means of neutralising competence. Around this time there was a major (((Hollyweird))) film by that name & she looked just like the main character. Not unusual for kids to give teachers nicknames, it happens to qualified, popular, competent First World teachers too. The hilarious thing was that even the staff called her Avatar! I never knew her name (don’t think she introduced herself). Normally a big taboo about showing a united front in front of pupils. The reason was everyone was so exasperated by her SHC ways – 1) disrupted there own lessons, 2) had to cover her lessons + meetings about her. I knew my (new) HoD was a PC type, with the usual PC airheaded CultMarx bs her demographic had. Yet even she was exasperated at having to cover her lessons & called her ‘Avatar’.

    Looking back, the amount of (((Creep State))) + (((infiltrator staff))) needed to keep her at the school was astonishing! I had seen student teachers who were kicked off their course who were FAR better than her simply bc the experienced staff didn’t rate her. Yet the staff rated Avatar far less. So how did she survive. The dynamics of (((diversity lawyers))) forcing this ‘Good Catholic School’ to be overwhelmed with incompetent Turd Worlders must go like this; the truth of what Kevin MacDonald said about anti-White behaviour being incentivized by the Deep State:

    1) FEEL HATRED A GOOD WHITE SCHOOL EXISTS
    2) CONTACT YOUR ‘FORCED BUSING’ COUSINS IN THE USA TO DESTROY THEM
    3) CREATE LAWS TO FORCE THIRD WORLDERS ON WHITE INSTITUTIONS
    4) LOOK FOR COMPETENT BLACKS
    5) CAN’T FIND ONE
    6) FORCE SHREW ON THEM
    7) EVERYONE HAS VISCERAL HATRED OF HER
    8) SHE IS INCOMPETENT
    9) SCHOOL WANTS RID OF HER
    10) (((CREEP STATE / RIVKA)))) THREATEN TO WITHHOLD PUBLIC FUNDING
    11) HEADMASTER TELLS SENIOR STAFF TO FALSIFY REPORTS ON HER
    12) SENIOR STAFF TELL STAFF TO PASS HER
    13) DIVERSHITTEY LAWS TRUMP COMPETENCE & SHREW GAINS PGCE
    14) REPLACE COMPETENT HEAD WOTH HORSE-FACED C-BUGGER OAF FROM THE OUTBACK

    Looking back now, I think I even OVER-ESTIMATED TW competence. Deep State knew of me & school right-wing rep. Most of us ultimately suspect blax are promoted well beyond their merit in Cuckstain, but I’d’ve thought that among the millions they could’ve found one person to keep up the PozPaganda. But no. Virtually NONE of them would have a ‘suit job’ based on merit. Beforehand, I would’ve guessed about ¼!

    Part of the reasons Poz hates White Men is bc race issues are obvious to him as he is least susceptible to msm psyops. That’s why medicult ‘profession & admin karens mess him over at all stages.

    Kids take ppl as they are SO It’s much harder to brainwash them. The sjw poz-ism is an effect of (((education+msm))) smoke & mirrors. If someone is incompetent, a kid will say it, eben if that person is dark, degenerate, feminist etc…. That’s why the medicults barrier, admin catladies desperately try to discriminate against White Men. We tend to be honest, whereas lower m-c WW are VERY easy for TCS to manipulate. Same with most public sector. I’ve dealt with Londonistan councils for a relative – it’s basically make work for black women. Curriculum + DMV lady in states – WOW – almost as if same group of rats either side of Atlantic transfers wealth from talented, creative hi IQ WM to lazy, dumb obese diversitards. I don’t even live in a diverse borough. But any urban arwas in gbr, guarantee you’ll see blacks overrepped,women overrepped. Do it. Obviously far easier for sinecure council jib than teaching. In teaching, pupils + exam rrsultts catch affirmitard actiinists out!!!!!!!

    Another funny thing was how msm lies (ofc only court history could be taught)were the exact opposite of reality! A friend told me as a NWM there is absolutely no point in me applying for any job in the public sector. As an Irishman it’s almost impossible.

    The school wasn’t to my taste, but my friend told me as an NWM you get what you can. Esp with the bigoted DOBs still allowing discrimination against Irishmat. ANd at our own schools. He said: “if you’re a black, lesbian, fat, disabled, obese hooknose Muslim, the public sector MUST give you a job”. I guess most of us know this, but quite the lengths they go to benefit blacks specifically in education amazed even me!

    One of my main reasons for agreeing to work in that school was Catholic Schools were one of the few places an Irish NWM could get a job w/o abuse & discrimination from the bigoted DOBs (dirty orange britfags). But the bar studs won’t eben let us (my HlD was an Irish woman) choose our own demographic. The DWALBREAKER for me was this, might not have agreed to work for them if I knew how cucked they were + it was actually not a very good school for that (krapp PE dept, no football/cricket, old-fashioned, stuffy, no modern music etc). Take a photoshoot of my dept in a Catholic school most time I was there you’d NEVER guess what it. Was. You might say Hindu, muz, kosher rtv… Like a CM diberchitty wet dream!!! When I say discrimination, I mean NEGATIVE discrimination, such that this was the only job I could get, not what blacks understand by discrimination – AA jobs, BWbeing physicists(!!!!!!!!), msm / ARSE numinous roles, unsackable cuzza ‘DAT be waycist’ rat gvt lawyers/polssticking their giant Nose into got Catholic schools etc…

    Funny thing is the butter BS ofsm poz pwnd just open your eyes. Dunning-Kruger effect is obvious – it was the black boys who complained most about the bio-teacher. (Everyone complained about the Eng-teacher she was so repellent).

    Also sitting in a class I could see how conscious they were of their meritocratic handicap. Whilst assisting an SN child in a low ability class which was about ½ black, I overheard them voicing this. The school streamed the forms in each year by ability – THEre were 6 forms per year, each form was given a ‘House’. The lowest form of each year was called the ‘n’ set (random name so as not to give too much away, tho all the kids knew exactly what went on). The ‘HouseMaster’ of the year put up photos of all the new first year pupils. I must confess that I hadn’t thought much about it until I heard one of the black pupils being taught in the room say to another: ‘see most of the new n set is black’. The school was relatively White for Londonistan standards (10-20% black). Tho most people who came back after being away remarked it was more diverse. (ARSE DE MONTFORT NAUSEATING BOMBAST HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

    Maybe the HouseMaster was an EVIL STALE PALE MALE using his privilege to undermine the black boys’ conference. He was certainly male. Whether he was stale is open to debate. But he SAF wasn’t pale by Amy definition!!! He was a dark as coal south Indian mathematician. Most of my #2s are lighter than him. In fact, he was darker than most of the African pupils themselves!!!!

    The anti-White dynamics of the public sector were revealed to me during break time whilst supervising the LSD. One of my fellow TAs – a senior black woman was discussing educational psychologists (which our dept had a lot of contact with). She said: ‘So many people have said that I should become an EdPsych. They say it would be easy for me to become one, with so many black boys having problems.’ EPs earn hundreds of pound an hour courtesy of the cucked NWM taxpayer (& loads have infantile grammar, I discovered when proofreading work for my boss). Here we see the perverse incentives that the rats instigate throughout the Cuckstain state sector:

    PANDERING TO & REWARDING BLACK MISBEHAVIOR!!!

    Because of massive TNB we should reward the black community with 1000s of £s. I can easily believe it. All sorts of TNB is indulged to ‘even out’ suspension rates. Teachers are pressurized not to officially discipline blacks, whilst overreacting to White Boys to obfuscate issues. Let me state: one of my fellow TAs was herself a deep state rat plant!

    NOT ONE IF THE BLACK STAFF WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE HAD THEY BEEN WHITE & W/O THE ABUSIVE MICROMANAGING MEDDLING OF (((DEEP STATE RATS)))

    This was all at a school that was resented by the educational establishment & considered ‘right wing’. It wasn’t right wing – most of the staff tended to be almost as brainwashed by Frankfurters as others. Everything is relative. Chatted to a teacher who had taught at ghetto schools in lunch hour a few times. He told me with fear in his voice what those schools are like, the ignorance, violence & poverty. The racial undertones were obvious (he was a White Cockney), but such is the fear of the DS in ed that he couldn’t NTN even off site in casual convoy, such is the trotskyist terror.

    I must emphasize a lot that this was BEFORE The Creepy Gnome turned the RCC into the cuckalick church. When it still expressed the values of the Europeans who developed it.

    NHS (needs to e defunded as much as the BBC) + medicult ‘profession’ in Cuckstain totally pozzed. Major branch of creep state rats screening out WM from teaching to pushCultM. Hi, Matthew Prickey!!!!!

    Every working class White Man in Cuckstain knows that if he’s up against a black man with similar qualifications / experience / personality for a job what the result will be. Even SLIGHTLY better credentials it would be the same result! Before he’d have ANY chance of trumping diversity, pozzers, catladies, retards, rats, (((hr))) & the Creep State he’d have to be SIGNIFICANTLY better credentialed than out numinous friend. That’s why so many NWM don’t even bother & have the worst results – everything in the ‘education’ – really BRAINWASHING INDOCTRINATION – system is designed to abuse him.

    Don’t expect much help from many White female teachers either! Some were good & moral, but many were judasrat brainwashed Stepford Wives. It became so obvious to me why The Creep State likes stacking the public sector (ofc paid by WM taxes) esp ed with Karen’s – latch onto any ideology, gullible, susceptible, disloyal etc… No doubt many of them actively prefer to get blacks results then Whites.

    Ironically the reason we needed Catholic Schools is bc of the NEGATIVE DISCRIMINATION the Irish faced among dirty, hypocritical, orange Britfags. One of the attractions for mr was i thoughtvit might be one of the few places in londpnistan to get away from affirmitards! Poor Irish (& to a lesser extent Spanish/Polish etc…) Peasant families like my own helped to create the values of such schools. I don’t see anyone demanding to go to Rastafarian schools – but then (((forced bussing))) only works 1 way here or in the States! Wasps+Rats in private schools are unaffected, & maliciously impose third worlders on us, being the degenerate jusasratscum they are. As a normal White Irish Man in (((Gross Cuckstain)))) there is no point applying for jobs; my colleagues tell me TDSrats are giving less room – more social engineering, less freedom, more Frankfurter ARSRS growing their huge dirty orange Chavski ‘Russian’ Noses like Abramovich’s nose bending round all those corners.

    Yes ofc throughout the history of the British police normal, upstanding, attractive White Men firmed the Police. But ofc in Cuckstain 6 million laws against that & ‘Russian’ Nose stretches 6 million contortions with ARSE colleagues to prove Cressida Diyk PigScum always were fat, lazy, northern obese black women.

    Rats letting any White Men have freedom of association or meritocracy in anything above 2 ppl – About as likely as a normal White Irish Man seeing a dermatologist on the NHS!!!!!!!

    WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA

    Working class White Man spends years as a construction worker in freezing cold & rain outdoors building a school. On the last day he falls off the roof, breaks an arm & a leg. Can work no more. Wants to retrain as a teacher at the school he built. Trust me – this lad would be SHOCKED at the lengths the Deep State & its brainwashed Karens go to cucked him over… Even tho he built the darn thing & would make a better teacher than half the ‘qualified’ ethnics/Karens there!!!!

    BLACK LIVES MATTER
    WHITE LIVES DON’T MATTER
    IRISH LIVES MATTER LEAST
    BLACK LIVES ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS!!!!!!

    Be careful tho – you can deplatformed as racist for saying WHITE LIVES MATTER!

    • Dave says:

      Welcome to the Idiocracy. It’s much easier to breed stupid people than smart people, so if the stupid do not starve, freeze to death, or get eaten by predators, they will multiply and take over every nation on Earth. Frontiers are great because you can move away from the drooling masses and start your own thing, but the USA stopped being a frontier society when it repealed the Homestead Act in 1976. I hear Putin’s offering land in Russia for settlement, and Elon’s racing to establish a colony on Mars before the Idiocrats figure out what he’s doing and shut it down.

      • info says:

        @Dave

        The best way to deal with fools is to allow them to hoist themselves on their own petard.

        We have no obligation to save them from themselves.

    • Not Tom says:

      You see why Cominator and I find wignats so irritating? Nominally on the “right” team but consistently making no goddamn sense and having no clue what they’re talking about. Just one long stream of obscenities with no logic or direction.

      The Irish did way more to promote leftism in America than Jews. They created the Democratic machine, Jews just streamlined it and took it over. If you potato niggers ever got back full control, you’d go right back to shitting on Protestants, promoting your Papist faggotry (literally, these days) and shaking down small business owners for protection money. And no, I’m not confusing you with Italians – they had the decency to run the mafia as a private organization, not make it government policy.

      If I had my way, we’d corral all the Jews and Irish in America into one gated community and tell them to duke it out on their own without involving their victims.

      • The Cominator says:

        I’m part Irish myself unfortunately but yes the Irish have been consistently the most problem group of whites and the Catholic Church has always been a traitorous and criminal organization even if their schools used to be marginally better than public schools (which isn’t saying much, the best thing you can say about the Catholic Church is that girls who come out of Catholic School traditionally aren’t feminists man haters, they generally like men… a lot).

        The Italians used to sort of support the Democrats but they wised up quickly when the Democrats went off the rails most wops nowadays hate the Democrats whereas lots of Irish still cling to the traitor party.

        Its funny I watch a lot of interviews with ex mob guys they consistently think the modern Democrats are as insane as we do (Sammy the Bull said something like you want to abolish police patrols AND implement gun control… criminals like us would have loved it)… I’ve heard NYC and Vegas were better places when the mafia was the real power in those cities. I can speak personally that the level of “customer service” in Providence’s mobbed up strip clubs was about the best on the planet. They are the only thing I miss about New England.

      • Theshadowedknight says:

        I still disagree that wignat is a useful term, but yes, I do find this type obnoxious. I don’t care to read through and find what particular subtype this is, but white nationalists are not our enemy (except for NatSocs). The problem is not the beliefs, per se, the problem is that he does not recognize his class and stay in his lane. I have read this same fucking screed written by shit tier leftists and natsocs, unintelligent normie conservatives, and probably half a dozen other branches of the lower classes. Just replace the shibboleths with another ingroup’s, and this is every stupid internet rant ever.

        Are his beliefs bad? No, they are irrelevant. I didn’t read because he has no place sharing his beliefs. The emotions are what matters, because the author is not a dialectical operator. The emotions are betrayal and anger, which are reasonable and rational responses to modern American culture. I feel the same way, but I am intelligent and coherent and therefore don’t go into rants like this. Nonetheless, the emotions remain. He should feel angry and betrayed. Don’t shit on the proles for being proles. It is part of the noblesse oblige that we should be cultivating.

        • suones says:

          @TheShadowedKnight

          Don’t shit on the proles for being proles noblesse oblige

          This is a mistake. Noblesse oblige is an anti-concept dating from Prog 0.2-beta1. Proles should not have their “own” opinions, and should certainly not pollute priestly spaces. Once we have proper segregation in place, then we can talk about this. Which is a jihad-complete problem, of course. Meanwhile, noblesse oblige is a Leftist justification to excuse the bad behaviour of proles.

          Inflaming proles’ emotions to attack the virtuous elite that provide their sustenance is a Leftist tactic that we cannot emulate. I don’t mean “cannot” as in “should not,” but literally cannot, as it requires compulsive lying that is not our nature.

          Our offer to (American) proles should be this: a bellyful of food, a draught of wine, a ruddy wife, ten bonny kids, a house to keep them all in, two cars and a garage, a Church to go to on Sunday, fine clothes to wear to Church, friends to go bowling with, bbq on weekends, and a job that pays for it all. No-one is “entitled” to anything, of course, but a prole simply needs hard work and dedication to get all of the above (and more, like large-screen TVs, smartphones, etc). Educational credentialism be damned. This is our blue-pill for proles.

          What we do not offer proles: an “opinion” on every topic under the sun. Leave priesting to the priests. Not everyone needs (or wants) the red pill.

          Prole children who have priestly or warrior aptitude will be offered opportunity to join the Academy or Officer College, so that they may develop their physical and mental faculties, but after passing out they’ll no longer be proles themselves, for better or worse – welcome to the red pill.

          • European Mutt says:

            Literally all proles I have ever talked to would take that deal no questions asked. For all of them it would be a massive improvement over what they have now. They know that even if they have opinions, they will not be heard, and are fine with it. Fake ‘proles’ like the wignat here (although, is he supposed to be a teacher or a construction worker I’m not sure du to his incoherence?) on the other hand would not accept such an arrangement because they think ‘the system’ betrayed them and ‘the system’ needs to be reformed.

            I have heard sentiments exactly like David’s here not from true lower-class people but from middle-class government workers (including teachers) who were probably up until 5 years ago card-carrying liberals. The danger with them is that with the right incentives they can be lured back into supporting Moloch. They still trust in the system, as can be seen in David’s detailed descriptions of how the classrooms were divided which he would only describe in such detail if he thought it could be *reformed* somehow. That’s why the Cathedral pushed Richard Spencer so hard for some time. People like him would have stopped immigration temporarily, put in some ‘reforms’ and continued welfare and deindustrialization, with the middle class cheering them on all the way up to their own gallows.

            Look at Macron suddenly becoming more anti-Islamic. That does not make him our friend. Maybe if he lifted all lockdowns and fired 80% of the French bureaucracy…

            BTW most European ‘populist’ parties with the exception of PiS, Fidesz and Jobbik are also fake like this. They are letting themselves get pushed left by the right edge of the overton window each time. To them, Muslims are bad because they don’t support anal marriage.

            True proles are not our problem, the uppity middle class is. They need to be told what the proles already know — the system is rigged against them (which should have been OBVIOUS to anyone even ten years ago), they will always have the short end of the stick unless the system is not reformed, but crushed (although this may look much like a reform if you squint a little). Their way of life is under attack just as that of proles has been for decades, but the current middle class was indoctrinated by the media and for some, College, and is therefore slow to learn.

            I think Trump has done a pretty good job on redpilling the middle class, but in Europe it’s largely crickets. The American troops on European soil (hopefully majority Trumpist) are starting to look like a blessing in disguise… Ideally I want to live in an independent country, though I’d rather swear loyalty to Trump than be stuck in a Cathedral enclave.

            Britain, where David seems to be from, is one of the few places where I can excuse a government strategy of swimming with the mainstream left for a while (preventative (WTF) lockdowns, welfare, mollycoddling immigrants etc. etc.) but after Brexit is done they should be clamping down HARD, hopefully with Trump’s help. It’s still a risky and probably bad strategy overall, but they have a reason for doing it at least.

            Small point: Segregation for proles — how would you implement that — after jihad of course? Not dismissing it outright, but this seems like more hassle than it’s worth.

            Sorry for my long absence, will try to come here more regularly especially during those ‘interesting times’.

          • Theshadowedknight says:

            That is as precise an encapsulation of my position as has ever been written. I do not disagree with your position. I think you are misunderstanding me; he has no place here, but having a prole show up and then attacking him for being a prole is not acceptable. He should have been told to be quiet, and to leave. He doesn’t belong here. He wasn’t attacking us, so he doesn’t need to get attacked back. He just needs to be shown the door and assured that we are working on things, and to wait for us to fix it instead of making things worse.

            Noblesse oblige and condescension are absolutely vital to the operation of the warrior class in particular, and the management of the estates and territories of those warriors in general. The leader of a band of warriors must be one of those warriors, or it falls apart. He has to be able to talk at their level to understand them, and to operate above them as the master of their collective will. He needs to know what his subordinates are thinking and how they are feeling so that he can plan and operate accordingly. That isn’t encouraging them to have their own opinions on important matters, just that the ruling class need to be able to determine what their opinions are on the day to day matters of their lives.

            • Not Tom says:

              My instincts were telling me that he was a socialist/NatSoc, because the pattern is very familiar to me, thus my long paragraph on Leftism. If he’s really just a jolly ole’ prole then you’re absolutely right.

              When I refer to wignats as a label, I’m pretty much always talking about socialists, because I find they take to socialism like flies to shit – but if it’s more palatable for you dudes if I close the loop and refer to them as natsoc or nazbol instead, therein restricting the category to those who’ve actually taken the bait as opposed to those who merely have the temperament for it, then I can do that.

              You must have sensed it too, otherwise you wouldn’t have brought up the possibility.

              • Theshadowedknight says:

                I sensed the possibility, but he looks to have been bitching about being a white guy who worked hard and got hurt and tried to get some help and was turned away for being white. A man who was loyal to a system and when he needed the system it turned its back on him and threw him out. That is absolutely justified, and it is a lesson to us, as well. If we turn our backs on our supporters, they will turn to our enemies. Make sure you own your enemies.

                One of the things that makes me more sympathetic to the natsocs than I would naturally be is that a lot of them are operating in a frame that America is Christian, capitalist, and conservative. Thus the betrayal lead to turning to national socialism to cure the failures of internationalist conservativism, Christianity, and capitalism. They don’t have the vision to see that neocons are socialists, socialists manipulate the market and bully the capitalists, and Christianity has been hollowed out by buggerers and frauds. They think they are revolting against the system that is hurting them, when they are just acting exactly as their betrayers want them to act. They aren’t smart, and I don’t bother to hold that against them. It isn’t their fault, and unless they violently resist us, they will fall in line when we win.

                The issue with wignat is that it focuses on attacking whites and nationalism. If you expanded it to wiggernat, it gets more of your meaning across, but then it does not have flow. We don’t want to attack whites, and are mostly alright with nationalism. If you mean natsoc, say natsoc, because it gets your point across better, and its a word that sounds unpleasant.

                Never let what you think is a clever wordplay get in the way of real communication. We, in this very small, very cohesive group, know what you are trying to say. The people to whom our memes spread won’t know that, so you are poisoning a well by trying to make a clever play on words. Make it simple: socialist bad. Nasty natsoc is bad. Natsocs are whiggers. Natsocs are dumb.

                • Not Tom says:

                  One of the things that makes me more sympathetic to the natsocs than I would naturally be is that a lot of them are operating in a frame that America is Christian, capitalist, and conservative.

                  Eh, maybe, and again I can only speak from my own experience, but from my own experience, these guys were socialist before they were natsoc. They were always of the left, but couldn’t explain away all the recent failures of the left and feel betrayed by a left that is increasingly anti-white and anti-liberal. So they came up with a formula that’s persuasive within their group: socialism is broken because of too many non-whites and Jews, get rid of them and we could easily pay for universal healthcare and all the other things Obama promised us but didn’t deliver.

                  Or to put it another way, they’re more aligned with classical Marxism (ironically, the more Jewish-influenced form of leftism), which is dead and therefore no longer holiness-spiraling, than the actively-spiraling, suicidal and downright creepy Progressivism.

                  My sympathy toward those types is very, very limited. When the dust settles, they should be given a chance to renounce kleptocracy and sincerely convert, but then I would extend the same courtesy to nearly everyone other than the Harvard professoriat and the New York Times editorial board.

                • jim says:

                  Not seeing these types.

                  If they existed, they could and would say stuff that you cannot say on a company computer in a company office. What I see is obvious shills.

                  If the people you describe existed, they would blame George Soros and Victoria Nulan for the fact that Obama socialism lite sucked for the white working class.

                  Instead, the shills blame nationalist Israelis and Orthodox Jews and get upset about the Rothschilds, who lost their power and most of their money long ago.

                • Not Tom says:

                  Well, Jim, I think you’re seeing one right now. If you operate on a tautological definition wherein the only types that can possibly exist are actually paid shills, then of course you will never identify one who isn’t a shill.

                  He’s clearly putting out material unapproved by HR, and a shill wouldn’t go to this level of effort anyway. And yet he’s in education (i.e. lower middle class, not working class), complains about things like inability to get public sector contracts, and says straight up that the Catholic Church (RCC) is only pozzed because of Jews.

                  I’m not saying I want to helicopter the guy, but I’m 99% certain he’s the type to agitate regardless of whether the system is working for or against him. His rant is a mix of the fearful and despairing kind of rage when one’s dignity is taken away but also the prideful and arrogant kind of rage when one feels that the world owes him something and isn’t paying up. Non-socialist proles don’t believe that the world owes them, they just want to be able to mind their own business and keep what they earn.

                • jim says:

                  > > Not seeing these types

                  > Well, Jim, I think you’re seeing one right now

                  The defining characteristic of these types as you describe them is that they like socialism, or at least Obama Fabian Socialism. Where is David ‘The Diversity Mastermind’ Lammey’s socialism?

                  The defining story of the shills is that Capitalism is a Rothschild plot, and socialism would have worked great except for the Joos – the evil Joos being Orthodox or Jewish nationalist, with Soros and Victoria Nuland strangely unmentionable.

                  Not seeing your “type”. The socialist right today is all shill all the time everywhere.

                  the shills are selling lumpen Marxism 101m having done a search and replace, replacing the “Wall Street” with “Rothschilds” Lamney is attacking the diversocrats for what they are in fact doing.

                  There is a lot wrong with his writing and his level of knowledge and understanding, but he sees the enemy and knows who they are.

                  The right, all of it, is solidly national capitalist – they want trade with more favorable trade deals, and trade war if a more favorable trade deal is not forthcoming. They don’t like rootless international capitalism and rootless international capitalists, but they like national capitalism and they like national capitalists.

                  “Made in America”. They like Americans who make stuff.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > shills blame nationalist Israelis and Orthodox Jews and get upset about the Rothschilds,

                  The shills are also out of date on the Rothschilds having lost their Jewishness, not just the money and power. In the early to mid 1800’s when they had the moneypower, the R’s saw themselves as (and were) simply Jewish, and actively shunned the assimilationist Jewish elite with its literary salons, opportunistic religious conversion and intermarriage. Over time their Jewish identity and Jewish percentage of ancestry has declined. They are mostly atheists or nominal Christians by now (plus the occasional party with Satanic imagery).

                • The Cominator says:

                  Also the rant is partially about skrewl.

                  Under our system proles will not spend very long in skrewl. Only maybe 10-15% of the population will and even then skrewl will be a lot different either inclined to hardcore scientific or live action (if non lethal) military training.

              • jim says:

                David ‘The Diversity Mastermind’ Lammey sounds like the authentic voice of median white guy bitten by affirmative action.

                He writes far too much, he does not understand what is happening to him and why. He took up far too much text. Why is everyone hating on him? He is the people we want to protect. The elite has to be loyal to its people, if only in order that they can be loyal to each other.

                • Not Tom says:

                  I just don’t believe it. I’ve been to the elite places and the prole places and never met a prole or “median white guy” who talks like this. Maybe it’s more typical of the -1 SD band; I’ve had a lot less exposure to them except online and a very long time ago in public school, perhaps neither of which are representative of real-life adult interactions.

                  But seems more typical to me of the white socialist who’s angry at being denied access to the little scraps of power and ill-gotten gains to which he’s accustomed. I’m certainly curious to know which of our instincts is correct.

                • jim says:

                  > seems more typical to me of the white socialist who’s angry at being denied access to the little scraps of power and ill-gotten gains to which he’s accustomed

                  That is not what he is complaining about.

                  He is complaining about violation of meritocracy.

                  Again, your “type” seems like the invisible intangible pink unicorn.

                  If they existed, we would see them. We are not seeing them.

                • Theshadowedknight says:

                  I grew up dealing with this sort of people and it is exactly the way they think. This is the script of the angry prole lashing out. Like I said earlier, this is the average person’s complaint. You could fill it with references to white privilege and racism and it would read like every NPC shitlib rant on social media. This is how the lower class announces a problem. He attacks trotskites, now that I read through it some more, so probably not a socialist.

                  These things normally only come at you from the left, which is–I suspect–why it is tripping your alarms, Not Tom. The right was too afraid to say things like this out loud, so you would see the pattern and associate it with leftists (whether nationalist or internationalist) or lunatics. The heuristic was valuable, but given as more and more of this is being seen as critical race theory gets exposed and discredited, it is time to reevaluate it.

                  Jim, I do not think there is much malice in the attacks against his class. I think they just looked at the rant and it looks like natsoc or shitlib ranting at first. Once you dig in, it looks like that isn’t the case, but it is a reasonable assumption at first glance. David Lammey doesn’t belong here and he is not an enemy, but his presentation was similar to that of an enemy.

                • Not Tom says:

                  You may have a point there. It’s rambling and incoherent, but then nigger and mulatto screeching about white privilege would be every bit as rambling and incoherent if there weren’t an entire university system dedicated to polishing that turd, framing it, and making it neat and presentable for the progressive elite and (formerly) nice white ladies in HR.

                  Nevertheless, these rants don’t really add substance to the conversation here, and if we’re bound to respond politely then it also needs to be firm.

                • suones says:

                  @Jim

                  > sounds like the authentic voice of median white guy bitten by affirmative action.

                  I know the feeling, and have heard such screeds after a couple of glasses of wine go in.

                  But I also have a lingering doubt — this could be a GPT-generated copypasta. Happens on Reddit all the time. The reason it feels authentic is because GPT is trained on a corpus of right wing posts from Reddit or elsewhere.

                  Just a thought.

                • jim says:

                  > this could be a GPT-generated copypasta

                  It reads very like a GPT-generated copypasta, but where is the payload?

                  If it is a GPT-generated copypasta, it is attacking the class of people who issue GPT generated copypastas, not deflecting blame from them.

                • Theshadowedknight says:

                  The closest he gets to backing the other side in his post is accusing the Christians of backing diversity. Which is partially correct, in that Churchians have turned God’s house into Satan’s house. It isn’t Christian, but it calls itself that and wears its skin. That isn’t really an attack on Christians or Christianity, its an attack on the coopted institutions.

                  He isn’t calling for socialism, and the I noticed thatat the one instance in which it was mentioned, it was in correctly identifying the trotskyite socialists as the origin of his woes. The long march through the institutions, and the gutting and skinning of those institutions. In fact, the whole point of him saying all this is that the institutions that he worked for abandoned him in his time of need.

                  Jim is right. There is no “there” there. It looks like socialism because our socialist elite is picked for stupidity, holiness, and adherence to dogma. Which means they are pulling from his class for them. The modern socialist method of argumentation is really a function of class, not belief. I see things like this from MAGA Trump supporters all the time and I learn to glance over it and move on.

                  There is no viral load. If this is an infiltrator, its a bad job because it argues against its own interest. The script is, “Hello, fellow white, male, nigger-hating wife-beaters! Have you heard how evil capitalism and the Jooooos(!!!) are?” It is not, “Taking care of ignorant blacks that aren’t interested in doing anything productive instead of the productive white people that have already helped and need a hand is wrong.” Its a farcical understanding of our motives and incentives, whereas he appeals to honor, loyalty, and fairness.

                  This is a particularly bad priestly problem that I have noticed here and in other places when they were still operating. You all seem to dunk hard on our side when they come from the lower classes. You can’t fucking do that. If you do it to the wrong people when this turns to war they are going to drop you like radioactive waste. The majority of the fighting class comes from the lower ranks. If you shit on them, the warrior elite will find a priesthood that won’t. I keep telling you this. Let me make it clear: If. You. Piss. Off. The. Military. You. Will. Lose. Stop.

                • jim says:

                  > Let me make it clear: If. You. Piss. Off. The. Military. You. Will. Lose. Stop.

                  Exactly so.

                  In a civil war, David ‘The Diversity Mastermind’ Lammey is going to be one of our grunts.

                  Lord Cardigan was someone like us, and Lammey is someone like his grunts. Lord Cardigan was willing to die for his grunts, which is why his grunts followed him into the valley of death.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I’ve personally only dunked hard on him for his obvious resentment of Anglo Protestants when Anglo Protestants vote better than Irish people in both England and Britain (if it were a Southern Scots Irish redneck ragging on leftist damnyankees I’d be more understanding).

                  People from lower ranks of society are of course fine, resentful white hyphenated ethnix insulting the main ethnic group when the main ethnic group votes better than they do is not fine.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Most of the grunts (and probably most of at least our line officers) on our side are going to be rural white boys from the South and other parts of flyover country (in Florida here most of the Cubans will join us as well).

                  Walloftext here sounds like a British (who identifies as Irish) urbanite, England will ultimately go Cathedral or anti-Cathedral depending on the US the shooting war won’t be over there (I don’t think) and even if he were in America I don’t think he would be a part of the core grunt demographic.

                  Walloftext should not be dunked on for his class we should of course explain things patiently if he injects errors, but his anti Anglo-Protestant resentment is another matter and should be treated as a hostile attitude.

                • Pooch says:

                  Picking and choosing what white ethnics are ok and which ones are not is an exercise in mental masterbation at this point. Whites of all ethnicities are in danger of extinction equally. As long as you vote for Trump nationalism and thus the preservation of America, you’re on our side.

                • Not Tom says:

                  In a civil war, David ‘The Diversity Mastermind’ Lammey is going to be one of our grunts.

                  Maybe you should ask him before assuming. I have a hard time imagining a Catholic school teacher, whose father was an educator of some kind, as an enthusiastic member of the RWDS.

                  I’m not saying it’s impossible. But if we take his story at face value, then I repeat, he is not working class, he is middle class by upbringing and profession. I’m sure there are some grunts from that background too – there are at least a few warriors from every social class, after all – but by his own narrative he isn’t prole and hasn’t been anywhere near any military.

                  It could be I’m wrong, that I read the WOT and imagined personality traits not in evidence; I’ve admitted as much. But now you guys are doing the exact same thing, assuming all sorts of things about him for which there is no evidence at all, some of which even contradict his own claims.

                  I wouldn’t shit on anyone for being lower class, or any other class – only for refusing to stay in one’s lane. Putting aside the question of labels and looking solely at class, I see a LMC ranting at the UMC using the shibboleths of the underclass. Nothing about that sounds like a normal everyday occurrence to me.

                • Theshadowedknight says:

                  Not Tom, I’m not saying this to pick a fight, but it doesn’t matter why you are going after him. In your manner of attack and the general tone, you appeared to be attacking him in a manner if class. I was a member of the military and they have a saying–which I personally despise, but nonetheless it persists–that perception is reality. If you look like you have a class animus against the warrior class, no matter the reason behind it, you will end up all on your own.

                  You need to take a hard look at your prejudices. If Jim and I both notice them–and we have the most overlap with the warrior class so we would know–then you might have a problem. Other people are pointing it out. Its a theme in NRx that has to be stamped out. If we don’t, someone else will take our place, and I am unaware of any remotely sane alternatives out there. This is too important to leave to miscommunication. Either learn to express yourself more clearly, consider your own biases, or keep silent on the subject.

                • Not Tom says:

                  “Other people” – I count 3 including myself saying he is middle class, two (you and Jim) saying he must be a warrior/grunt, and one thinking it could have been a bot. But consensus is a non-argument, so why don’t you tell us, what makes you so certain he’s an actual or potential warrior and not a disaffected urbanite?

                  If you’re saying “I know it when I see it”, and I’m saying “I know it when I see it”, then we’re just talking in circles and neither of us are going to persuade the other. So I’m going by his actual statements about his upbringing and profession, which is the least-biased way I can think of; what else should we go by?

                • jim says:

                  The issue is not the precise identification of his social class, which is evidently not all that high, nor the population density near his school.

                  You are assuming he is of a type that is never observed, that does not appear to exist at all.

                  We are guessing he is of a type that is regularly observed.

                  National Socialists were leftists, and were perceived and denounced as leftists by the German right of the times. But National Socialism is frozen at 1933 leftism, which now puts them, like 2008 Obama, on the unthinkably extreme ultra far right. Today’s rightists are just not national socialists, any more than Trump is 2012 Obamanite. Today’s socialists are leftists, and as leftists, say their prayers to St George of the 6 Felonies with a immense sense of pious virtue.

                  You are inventing rationalizations to despise people of lower social class than yourself. Don’t do that. It will get us all killed. The King has his job, and the peasant has his job, and the King is not a King because he acts like a King. He is a King because the peasants act like he is a King.

                  The masses are hungry for an elite that is on their side, on the side of people who do their job, obey the law, and pay their taxes, hungry for friendly and loyal leadership and authority. He is angry with the existing elite because they are not his side. You don’t sound like you are on his side either.

                • Mike says:

                  Not gonna lie, I judged him in only one way, which was, “Wow, this is an absolutely unintelligible scrawl that sounds retarded, regardless of if he on our side or not.”

                • jim says:

                  That his writing is unreadable should not lead us to classify him as enemy. There will be a time when writing matters rather less. This is not the poet’s appreciation society.

                • Theshadowedknight says:

                  I am not saying that he is a warrior, but that the warrior class is drawn from men very much like him. Given his manner of speaking I very much doubt he belongs in the middle class, and is more likely working class. I have noticed a general sense of contempt towards the lower classes from a few people here, not just you. This is not the first time this conversation has been had. That is what I am warning about.

                  You attacked him in a manner that those of us directly from the warrior class (me) or close enough to count (Jim as a paladin is warrior adjacent) noticed something wrong. His post isn’t carrying a hostile memetic load once you read the whole thing. Meaning that there is no reason to attack him as an enemy. Combined with the frame of your initial attack, it becomes a class issue. This is something which I think you might be confusing or conflating due to the frequency of attacks from people who sound very much like him in tone if not content.

                  Your posts viscerally bother me, and they bother me because you are punching down at someone who didn’t do anything wrong but to make appeals to honor, duty, and loyalty to his social superiors. You haven’t bothered to read it, or else you would know that he wasn’t promoting enemy memes. The closest he got was far more unkind to our enemies, and correctly identified their role in causing the harm. He might not be a warrior, but working men still deserve our respect for their role.

                • Theshadowedknight says:

                  Jim wrote in his last two paragraphs exactly what I have been trying to convey. The biggest takeaway is these two bits:

                  “You are inventing rationalizations to despise people of lower social class than yourself. Don’t do that. It will get us all killed.”

                  And

                  “He is angry with the existing elite because they are not his side. You don’t sound like you are on his side either.”

                  I don’t care what you think you are saying, how you think you are coming across, and what your justification is. My warrior/warband leader instincts are telling me to protect my villager and kick you in the junk for insulting him and, by extension, me. Instincts don’t exist for no reason. Which means that if you continue on in this manner, you are not going to do a good job of convincing warriors to do anything but ignore you at best and fight you at worst.

                  The hardest lesson I ever had to learn was that it doesn’t matter what I think I am saying; it only matters what other people think I am saying.

                • Atavistic Morality says:

                  Well, I am most certainly not “on the side of the proles”. Our nations are going down the rain with the unconditional support they’ve given the deranged insane psychotic leftists for decades. They’ll claim they didn’t know any better, but they’re responsible for their own actions, they know it but they don’t even care. They are scum without honor, today they’ll lash out against you for being an “evil reactionary” and tomorrow change their tune for their own benefit, they’ll go back and forth as the wind blows, they believe in nothing.

                  I don’t recommend you take them for granted TSK, they’re not your friends. They might ally with you and you might have a mutually beneficial arrangement with them, but when the time comes if it’s convenient for them they’ll spit on you like they did when “their” warriors came from Vietnam. For them you’re just a tool, either to use or to be afraid of, they don’t actually care about you and probably never will.

                  If you’re going to shoot at someone do it for you, your wife and your children, the brother that covers your back, the people you share your life with. Never do it for the proles, never do it for the villagers, never do it for “the people”, because you will die a dog’s death, you will have died for nothing. Like all those fools at WWII, what a fucking waste, all their courage and sacrifice so “the people” can be whores, sodomites and nigger lovers hell bent in self destruction.

                • jim says:

                  Lord Cardigan did it for his grunts, who would follow him into the valley of death, and did so.

                • The Cominator says:

                  It depends on your country I suppose, US proles have been anti-cathedral since at least the 1980s, US peasants since at least the 1950s. The American working class at this point now almost universally despises the left and probably far more so than any other class.

                  I don’t consider teachers working class people though, they are low level priests and tend to be our enemies. And I don’t know what to make of a wignat papist teacher who hates Anglos in England. I don’t dunk on proles in the US at all the Optimate-Vaisya alliance is the core of Trump’s support… but not sure how walloftext fits into that.

                • jim says:

                  He was a priest of the official priesthood, and doubtless subscribed to all the proper priestly beliefs. Got burned, embraced our beliefs, including the worship of Gnon.

                  Wall of text is not well qualified to be a priest. We will require the ability to communicate lucidly, which the official priesthood used to require, but now requires less and less. Likely he will make a better grunt.

                • Theshadowedknight says:

                  The scum who spit on the soldiers should have been shot, but notice how many of them ended up in academia and government. Those aren’t proles, any more that the trust fund set playing antifa are. They were either the criminal scum that a decent society shoots in the back of the head or the idle wealthy trying to avoid the ennui of their pointless existences. HighLow vs Middle.

                  I’m not going to war for the lower classes. I’m going to war because it is the only hope for a society that isn’t a White Haiti, with snow niggers killing each other over food and women. I won’t win that war if the priests don’t shut the fuck up and fall in line. I’ll be too busy trying to fend off the men who should be following me.

                  If you treat the proles as your enemy–as honorless, disloyal, and disobedient–you are going to find it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. So, as I said before: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  Guessing its an Ulster Catholic who prefers American RW sites to the British ones and is working overtime to appeal to the Yanks here with US tropes. Has a great ear for Jewish names to fill the (((parentheses))), the effect is hilarious. Nothing nefarious — no enemies to the right — or at worst a funny troll or barium meal test for some school project; not a shill or enemy. And if GPT can write this stuff, then notwithstanding some of the training data: ALLOW.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “If you treat the proles as your enemy–as honorless, disloyal, and disobedient–you are going to find it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. So, as I said before: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.”

                  I’m not doing that though… I’m saying I’m not sure what to make of the schoolmarm here.

                • jim says:

                  The proles love their elite, and hunger for an elite that loves them back.

                • Theshadowedknight says:

                  Cominator, I was not talking about you, that was AM that said that.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I think in certain parts of Europe I believe the proles are indeed a problem (and I think in Spain this is the case) in a way they haven’t been in the US in a very very long time.

                  In the US we have an entrenched ruling priesthood that everyone hates but a society so atomized its hard to get rid of them… but the priests genuine supporters outside the priesthood are limited to young single women. Increasingly even their former minority pets despise them.

                  So I guess its a difficult question what to do when the Proles and the priesthood are BOTH pozzed. I would suggest trying to leave the country…

                • jim says:

                  > So I guess its a difficult question what to do when the Proles and the priesthood are BOTH pozzed.

                  Now that we have a loyalist president, I can see the pozz fading among the proles and signs of testicles growing on the Christians. The same would happen in Spain, but probably only after a loyalist president purged the priesthood.

                • Anon says:

                  I find discussion around class, especially in the US, pointless because undedined. Maybe time for a rectification of names. “Class” as it’s historically formulated doesn’t exist in America, has almost nothing to do with economics, and since it doesn’t exist in America it doesn’t exist in any American client states.

                  For example on Twitter or wherever, generally when people talk about “proles” or “working class” or “middle class” or “elite”, it’s borrowed from Marxist terminology that they haven’t actually read, and they’re using it as a catch-all term for a thing they don’t like. If you’re accounting for taste or intelligence, almost everyone in America is a “prole”, including and almost especially the “elite”, who are not elite at anything. Caste is marginally better but that doesn’t quite capture it eithe. Decades of assortative mating where effete PHDs who know nothing have one kid who meets and marries another PHd kid who then have half a kid isn’t “class”.

                  If you use the strict Marxist definition, it doesn’t map onto the current situation now at all because doctors who don’t own their own private practice and lawyers who don’t own their own firm are technically “working class”. Is a high school teacher, a unionized university professor, a civil servant on a 6 figure GS income or an NGO functionary a “prole”, “working class”? They seem like priests to me, but they certainly want you to think they’re proles or working class. Any definition of class that tries to tie it strictly to economics and not historically non-Marxist definitions of class is not a useful definition. Is a millionaire football player who owns a headphone business and blows through their entire income in a year “upper class”? Some people want you to think so.

                  Seems to me that class has been ripped from its historical context and used by the left as a cudgel against people capable of a return on equity, ie capitalists. By the Marxist formulation any halfwit celebrity is “upper class”, but their education (if they have one) means nothing, they know nothing, and they have pig taste, as annoying as any enlisted who watches UFC and listens to trash music. They’re functionally the same. An aristocracy, but they’re a bad one: you can set up a society of dogs in such a way that a dysgenic caste of pugs with breathing problems and a shit fertility rate is on top, but you can’t really call them “elite” because that would require an acknowledgement of telos.

                  I think Carlsbad put it reasonably: “Are class distinctions arbitrary? There could be no other.” The only question is how you want to arbitrate them, and everyone can see the current “elite” who are not elite at anything isn’t working.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Marxist and reactionary class categories are not the same.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > rectification of names. “Class” … doesn’t exist in America

                  That’s an anti-rectification. Economic class doesn’t exist anywhere as sharply demarcated categories, and the Marxist demarcations did not fit perfectly in Marx’ time, though things were easier to describe then. It’s a heuristic, a mental model, a set of stylized facts.

                  The real issue isn’t whether some list of classes is a perfect crisp classification scheme, but the dimensionality of the space on which the class labels live. Is it basically one-dimensional (wealth), two-dimensional (say, wealth and ancestry, or wealth and occupation), three, or something more complex. For Marx there was basically a single axis that everything reduced to.

                • Pseudo-chrysostom says:

                  The whole point of ‘marxian class analysis’ is to create a rhetorical blind spot where the idea of ‘priestly class’ would exist. It is a weapon used by demotist priests to occlude the fact that they are a ‘thing’ that has existence, that exerts sovereign power.

                • Atavistic Morality says:

                  @jim

                  Lord Cardigan did it for his grunts, who would follow him into the valley of death, and did so.

                  I don’t think I ever said anything about fellow soldiers. They are not unknown to you, they are not unrelated to you, they are not undecided and they are not actively fighting against you. And most importantly, they actually have beliefs they hold themselves to and they are willing to risk their lives.

                  @TSK

                  I’m not going to war for the lower classes. I’m going to war because it is the only hope for a society that isn’t a White Haiti, with snow niggers killing each other over food and women.

                  Yeah exactly.

                  If you treat the proles as your enemy–as honorless, disloyal, and disobedient–you are going to find it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. So, as I said before: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

                  This is not a problem of me treating proles as my enemies, which I haven’t said I do, specifically pointing out a mutually beneficial arrangement. The proles are already honorless and disloyal and your blind faith is a liability.

                  The proles are not your fellow soldiers, you’re wrong about this, and a commander has never been followed treating the proles like his own men. Your own men will take offense to it, justly so, and the proles will sell you and eat your corpse at the first chance they get.

                  You’re somehow conflating the Roman mob with Caesar’s own veterans, as if they were the same in any world, as if they weren’t complete different people with different values, ideas, behaviors, incentives, etc.

                  This is the same neocons do when they say to “stop attacking fellow Americans” when you fire against leftist scum. Leftist scum aren’t fellow anything to anyone to begin with. Nationalism as understood in modern times is a degenerate and deranged version of the very real aristocratic vow to the king. To consider someone to be your friend, they have to prove it: a vow, a hazing, a ritual, and skin in the game.

                  There is only one side that is your friend, the one that is truly here, now, today, fighting right beside you. The side that passes the red pill and agrees with it, the side that wants the same or similar things, the side with the same incentives. Everything else is a non perpetual enemy and a non perpetual ally at the same time. And the proles are not your friend, they are not here today, they will not be here tomorrow, they will not fight side by side with you, they aren’t capable of passing the red pill and they hate you for it.

                • jim says:

                  > You’re somehow conflating the Roman mob with Caesar’s own veterans,

                  The Roman mob came from the same social class as Caesar’s vets, Lord Cardigan’s grunts, George Zimmerman, and Kyle Rittenberg. Don’t be seen to hate on that social class.

                  Antifa does not come from that social class. They are trust fund kids.

                  BLM does not come from that social class either. They have suspiciously whitish ngo leadership, and underclass rank and file.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I think AtvM and others here disagree because we’re in America and other countries, America at the current time has a “proletariat” which is mostly Trump supporting and reactionary. I’m not sure this is the case in Spain.

                • Theshadowedknight says:

                  Irrational optimism gets further that rational pessimism. I will have the loyalty of the mob because I believe in it, and in them. You will not because you do not. Loyalty is a two-way street.

                  NOW this is the Law of the Jungle — as old and as true as the sky;
                  And the Wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the Wolf that shall break it must die.

                  As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk the Law runneth forward and back
                  For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.

                  See also the poem, Tommy. The mob knows when you despise it. The mob will never be your legions because you give them contempt instead of respect.

                  P.S. Jim, I accidentally posted this above in the wrong reply thread. Can you please delete the other?

                • Ironically, David Lammey is probably better-adjusted irl than most of the commenters here.

                  Hatred of proles betrays democratic thinking. “They should be better, they should be like us educated people”. It goes hand in hand with Marxism. It is not at all impossible to like and respect the working-class man, while believing that he shouldn’t be pulling the levers of power, if your brain is running AD1000 and not AD1850 or 2000.

                  Jim gets comments like this because he has the remarkable talent of translating 160IQ logic into simple language that a 100IQ man can understand, and David’s language (though impassioned) is absolutely typical of what a normal man with 100-115 IQ produces when he’s trying to reach up the IQ communications gap.

          • The Cominator says:

            We cannot tolerate hostile otherness attitudes among white proles though either. His resentment of proper Protestant English (which seems to extend beyond the ruling class) is subversive and wrong when the Irish in Britain (like in America) were more likely to support leftists parties and less likely to support Enoch Powell than real Protestant Englishmen were.

      • Pseudo-chrysostom says:

        No, since there wasn’t anything particularly wrong in that screed, it just offended (your) sensibilities. I felt a frisson of it myself, but i try to make an effort to rise above the instinct in those cases where more considered intuition would sense it leads to a bad mode of thought.

        Ruth Bader Ginsberg, one is told, was an avid patron of the opera; do not doubt that most, if not all, of her peers forming the rest of the crowd shared her sensibilities as well.

        There is a strain of europoids who, if they have elite aspirations – and most of such have pretensions of such – can’t help but turn their noses up at (what they perceive as) more pedestrian co-ethnics, whatever form they take. It is not an insignificant strain in numbers; indeed, it perhaps even constitutes the majority in our day and age.

        Imagine a guy who’s ratio of verbal output tends to have a character along the lines of, ‘[enemy] sure is bad arent they, anyways have i told you guys about the PERFIDY and REPREHENSIBLENESS of my NEIGHBORS lately?’

        Their theological window-dressing may differ from more dotrinaire members of our officially unoffical priesthood, from persons who hold them in high status and carry their consciousness… yet somehow, never the less, they seem to have mysterious isometry in their preference for directing ire towards the same kinds of people…

        The point of this example is not to say that you are that kind of person, but to illustrate an archetypical expression of the dynamic you’d’ve been inhering in, to different degrees of such.

    • INDY says:

      I had to hit the space bar 18 times to scroll through your post, you fuckin muppet

    • Bilge_Pump says:

      “A common trick they use to disguise TW stupidity with the usual rat-dindu tag team vs YT. (Eg principal of The Goldberg’s + ‘Dr’ Holly on Dance Moms MO+HLS=AA.)”

      fuck dude I couldn’t make sense of this sentence.

    • Mr.P says:

      The wall-of-words comment was copy-pasted at
      anonymousconservative.com, too:

      /blog/ news-briefs-10-24-2020/ #comment-350488

      Looks to be identical, or at least identically wall of words long.

      • Bilge_Pump says:

        I’m inclined to agree with the guy who thinks it’s a bot. I doubt most of you read as much of that as I did. Some of it is absolutely incomprehensible, and there would be no reason for a human being to be so specifically incomprehensible.

        • jim says:

          A lot of human beings are incomprehensible often enough. For normies addressing something substantial, comprehensibility is hard.

          • Bilge_Pump says:

            The quote that I referenced above, I could not find what those abbreviations are supposed to refer to in the writing. A normal person wouldn’t talk that way. A teacher especially, unless he’s some kind of schizophrenic gym teacher.

  17. BC says:

    So, if they’re going to pull a false flag attack, it has to be very soon. Naming the booglo leftists in BLM attacks appears to seeding the ground for it.

    • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

      They are obviously out of October Surprises, or the surprise was some kind of corruption scandal dwarfed by the Biden laptop so they can’t run it. Rapid doxxing of the last several “extremists” and their leftist affiliations has raised the threshold for a credible false flag beyond anything they can plan and execute in the required time frame. Every non-poll indicator says they will be crushed in (legal) votes. The scale of fraud necessary to overcome that will be staggering and very, very risky, life-and-limb risky. Looks like they are going to close their eyes and think of England and do some smaller scale local fraud in particular House, state and AG elections.

      • Strannik says:

        I agree. Whatever next they plan big, will have to wait until after they know just how bad their losses will be. I personally think that the losses will be very bad.

        I’m thinking a goodly portion of the Elites has-if not defected to Trump-decided to at least pragmatically play a waiting game with regard to him.

        And Trump doesn’t seem to be the forgiving or forgetting sort. They may slowly be becoming aware of that and could be increasingly terrified.

        • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

          Not to think too far past the sale, but Trump holds all the cards the minute it is clear he is getting a second term. He knows all about the problems at all the federal Resistance departments, and will begin a purge of the upper ranks the morning of November 4th. He doesn’t have much of an international agenda beyond rebalancing trade and extricating the US from foreign wars, leaving lots of time for a domestic agenda packed with existential threats to the left all working in concert. Swamp draining, defunding rogue agencies, revenge against Big Tech and MSM, culture war / critical race theory in schools, immigration restriction and the wall, voter ID after the 2020 debacle, prosperity and Republicanization for blacks, flipping the federal judiciary, law and order.

          2nd term is all about retribution. The senior Democrat leadership will be in the same bind as the traditional Republicans, the electorate has abandoned them and Trump will wage war on them. I expect the Biden-Schumer-Pelosi generation to have a wave of retirements, and to a lesser extent the same among republicans, finalizing the re-alignment into Trumpists versus openly capital C communist AOC left.

          • Karl says:

            Why do you think swamp-draining will be easier in a second term than in a first?

            Trump is president. If he can’t purge the upper ranks now, why should he be able after reelection?

            Any problems Trump has now won’t vanish during a normal reelection. An unusual reelction with an attempted coup and lots of killings, is a different matter, of course.

            • Pooch says:

              He doesn’t want the political headache of a pre-election purge. There are already reports he plans to fire the Wray, Esper, and the CIA director after he wins.

              • The Cominator says:

                Maybe he didn’t know how bad Wray would be but I don’t get why he EVER appointed that bitch Haspel. Her background just screamed she would be trouble and shes a woman to boot.

                Trump needs to be way way more paranoid.

                • Pooch says:

                  He likely had considerable less power over the presidency then he will after being re-elected. The guy he has been considering to replace Esper (forget his name, head of VA I think) has made comments sympathetic to the Confederacy which would be absolutely unthinkable in 2018.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Be more impressed if he made comments sympathetic to Rhodesia or something.

                  I’m not sympathetic to the Confederacy. Not because I believe in progressive egalitarian bullshit but because I think the Confederacy was the Open Borders lobby in arms.

                • Pseudo-chrysostom says:

                  One can criticize the policy of importing swarthy equitorials without looking like one is criticizing confederates or the confederacy, per se, which is not a rhetorical play that pays in gold.

                  Indeed, it would be precisely for the sake of such that one could make such an argument; a sort of argument from a sort of position that would be impossible under a puritan frame.

                  It was roundheads vs cavaliers, round two, and i much prefer the cavaliers.

            • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

              Trump has nothing to do in a 2nd term except consolidate power, and few of the things that stopped him in the first term will be there to continue. He only recently replaced the treasonous White House director of personnel who had been in place since 2016, and the new one has already begun the process of weeding out disloyalists and laying the groundwork for mass firings.

              On Nov 4th, Trump can appoint minister of declassification Richard Grenell as acting director of the CIA, and then rotate him through every other intelligence agency as necessary, to fire rats and publish withheld documents. He can replace Wray by a Trumpist from outside the Beltway. Issue additional executive orders to create Schedule G, H, I, J through Z to expedite the purges. Curtail the use of off-the-books “contractors”.

              There is a very long wish list that Trump can start implementing when he has no elections to worry about, has 4 years of experience in how the bureaucracy works, is not under any illusions about its compliance, does not have a Special Counsel and recused AG working against him (he might get a SC working for him), and has a very specific weapon — the Biden laptop — to finish off the media.

              • Pooch says:

                Yes the Mueller Report hanging over his head for years really limited him from doing anything too drastic. Any move would have likely been met with “Look! He’s obstructing!”

                As far as Grenell, I’ve heard him mention that it is unnecessary to have the headquarters of every agency in DC given today’s technology and that they could easily be spread across the country. Moving the FBI or CIA headquarters to say, Texas, could solve a lot in fell swoop.

          • Strannik says:

            I agree that Trump’s means of getting his way will be greatly expanded. And indeed, I expect a lot of firings and resignations, even suicides and jail time for some.

      • jim says:

        > The scale of fraud necessary to overcome that will be staggering and very, very risky, life-and-limb risky.

        The trouble is normalcy bias and recency bias. Which is what causes the cycles of war every eighty or a hundred years. Once side says “We will do the unthinkable, and it is the winning move – because the other side cannot possibly do anything in response.” And then the other side does something even more unthinkable.

        The Iranian Leader Ayatollah Khamenei sends a raid against the US embassy in Iraq

        Trump tweets on twitter: “Iran will be held fully responsible for lives lost, or damage incurred, at any of our facilities”

        Khamenei taunts Trump on twitter: “You Can’t Do Anything”

        Trump puts down phone.

        There is a substantial likelihood that the Democrats will do the unthinkable this election, in the expectation that no one else will do the unthinkable.

        • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

          If they try and are unmistakably caught and exposed, that is a huge vindication for Trump. A mandate to take control of that which is out of control. In the meantime it motivates the paramilitaries to assemble, parade and drive around which is its own form of election and post-election security assurance.

          The multitrillion-dollar question is how much can they do, how many votes stuffed, or successfully reported and accepted as being true legal votes. Close enough or corrupt enough state and local races can be flipped. But Republicans control too many of the governorships and state election offices to just run wild, indicators portend a landslide at least in the Presidential election, and Trumpists are on high alert with cameras etc.

          • jim says:

            > If they try and are unmistakably caught and exposed,

            Joe Biden has been unmistakably caught and exposed, taking a bribe from the Chinese, yet so far nothing has happened.

            The climategate files have been out for years, yet no one has gone to jail.

            • Mister Grumpus says:

              True. Such priestly power on display.

              This “not verified” thing. They’ve made themselves the “permission slip” for a phenomenon to become reality.

              To see it at work is amazing. Of course I’m a boiling frog like anyone and always have been, but this is such a ramp-up, so hot and so fast, that I can’t miss it, and it takes my breath away.

              • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                A remake of the scene in “All the President’s Men”, where Woodward meets Felt at the garage but keeps rebuffing the leaks with “dude, don’t waste my time with this conspiracy stuff, none of that has been verified”.

                • Mister Grumpus says:

                  Pentagon papers:

                  “Yeah this is nice I guess, but is any of it verified?”

              • After getting tired of getting called a conspiracy theorist i.e. a paranoid fool a hundred times, an Eastern European journalist came up with the ironic term “conspiracy practice”. I recommend borrowing it, it sort of sums stuff up well.

            • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

              There is a roomful of lukewarm firearms but no smoking gun caught on tape with Joe’s hand on the trigger. “10 percent to the Big Guy” is talked about, but not proven to have been done, nor how, at the moment. The avalanche is still growing. OAN is now reporting 200M, not 3.5M, from the oligarch’s wife, and things are getting less and less ignorable on multiple fronts.

              Enough people are hearing about this on Fox, Limbaugh etc that by election day either Biden or any DNC media announcing his victory will be irreparably discredited. Both prongs of that dilemma make it a lot more riskier to outright steal the vote.

              • Mister Grumpus says:

                And also thus the Trump rallies. He’s just stuffing the meme-sphere with the A/B comparison of his huge crowds to Biden’s smattering of parked cars with staffers honking their horns. Now Don’s sending raiding parties to fuck up even those. Thus the “lid”.

                Less than 1% of voters ever attend any of these rallies so one could argue they’re statistically insignificant, but one would have to argue that using mere words, while the R’s counter argument has pictures. They’re the ones who have propaganda at the propaganda fight.

                The D’s blew their optics by scaring their people out of showing up to stuff, while Don has structured his campaign around defying exactly this. Did Don really have Covid and then recover from it? I don’t know and I’ll never know, but now only Don has the rally photos while Joe has trapped himself into never being able to have one taken.

                Not one photo of Joe Biden, standing at a podium, and speaking to at least a thousand people. Not one. Even a hundred people? Incredible.

                I only notice and understand this now. Don is a genius. “Come with me if you want to live past the sale.”

                Given their rally optics deficit, how many D volunteers are just not going to “feel it” when Cathedral blows the trumpet?

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  A lot more D soldiers will defend “democracy that is under attack” than defend Biden. The trouble is that the announcement of the attack will be coming from entities with severely damaged credibility with the biggest damage having been self-inflicted in the two months before the election. At the same time and for the same reasons, Trump’s popularity ratings have been showing ever more resistance to media-fabricated announcements.

        • Strannik says:

          You may be quite prescient with your scenario regarding Trump and the Ayatollah Khamenei, and I have no doubt Khamenei and the Elites in the West are allied against President Trump.

  18. R7 Rocket says:

    The highlight of last night’s debate between President Trump and the Manchurian candidate, Sleepy Joe.

    Joe Biden looks at his watch during the debate! 😂

    • Strannik says:

      Indeed, it’s pretty well over. This was their revolutionary gambit, but their trojan horse candidate just wasn’t able to deliver. Now they’re stuck with him until November 3rd.

      Smart money would be on deals being made with President Trump before he wins re-election, i’m watching for signs of that.

      • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

        Leaders of the losing side kiss the ring in exchange for Biden corruption probe being buried “for national unity”, i.e., to end chaos they themselves instigate in order to arrange that very deal once it’s clear Biden is toast. Hunter Biden is the tip of large DC iceberg and they are not going to expose it over a mere Presidency.

        • The Cominator says:

          Trump should perhaps make that deal BUT he should not honor it… and I don’t lightly advocate him breaking his word but when he spared Hillary it wasn’t honored so these people must be destroyed period…

          They surrendered and unsurrendered before…

          • jim says:

            Rules keep being abandoned, and the stakes keep being raised. This is likely to lead to an irregular and quite possibly violent outcome this election.

            It is going to lead to large scale violence sooner or later, possibly sooner. The only way to prevent such an outcome is to end the left singularity sooner, rather than later.

            The peaceful outcome for the election would be if Trump gets to make sure the vote is counted by loyalists – which is going to look rather like a coup, and will be perceived by the Democrats as a coup.

            He also has cooking a program to take control of the civil service, to take the power to fire his entrenched enemies, also likely to be seen as a coup.

            But this program will not suffice to end the movement ever leftwards. To end movement ever leftwards, the judiciary has to be bypassed, and many of the courts closed, perhaps all of them. The Ivies have to be destroyed or subdued and drastically reduced. Halting the left singularity is still an unimaginably radical act. Perhaps bypassing the judiciary a little bit (which he has already made a start on) might suffice, and cutting the job prospects for degrees in ignorance and stupidity (which he has already made a start on) might suffice. It would certainly be a good step in the right direction, but I don’t think it will suffice.

          • Strannik says:

            Tactically if it gets him re-elected without too much cheating by them, it would be good for him to do it.

        • Strannik says:

          I pretty much think of that as the scenario that will happen. They may not like it, but they’ll lump it.

          • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

            Some items from today’s news supporting scenarios discussed here.

            – Trump stated on Maria Bartiromo program that the DC elites are bought and paid for by China, hence the cone of silence around the Biden revelations.

            – Trump marches and car parades deliberately escalating. They are now invading blue centers all over the country. Several Jews For Trump (not only Orthodox) events in New York and a march in Beverly Hills. The message to the left is “screw with the election and these will come to your neighborhood”, which is the message that precedes “screw any more and these will return as death squads”.

            Trump in a great position to force a deal should he want one. But it looks like he wants to tear things down in a second term, true to his history as a man who does not forgive or forget.

            • Strannik says:

              In many cases, such displays have their effect and are enough in themselves to overawe an enemy.

              • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                85 mile long car parade in New York.

                Deplorables lining the route to all Biden/Harris events. “Chumps” spoil the festivities with loud WHERE’S HUNTER protests and outnumber the Bidenites several-fold.

                The flexing is deliberately being done in blue areas and swing states. Demoralize, intimidate, spoil the press coverage. The more strength they show now, the less force will have to be used in November.

                • Strannik says:

                  Indeed, it actually works. And their tactics of looting and rioting and protests work against them.

  19. The Cominator says:

    The Biden platform

    > covid shutdown
    > illegal amnesty
    > tax increase
    > rejoin Paris accords
    > oil industry shutdown

    Dont think fraud will be enough to save him. Hes finished.

    • BC says:

      When you have the media on your side and the tech companies, unlimited fraud is on the menu. However, what I observed tonight is reporters acting worried. Hard to have a color revolution if the press is worried what happened to them if they lose.

      • jim says:

        Trump’s executive order creating Schedule F looks like pre-coup maneuver. If this executive order actually takes effect (which is no sure thing with executive orders) then the resistance is going to be fired.

        This order comes a few days before the election, so unlikely anyone will be section F fired before the election. Federal employees believe that they will be safe no matter what happens, even if the shit hits the fan and they are caught running action for the losing side. The difference this order makes for the election is that they need to keep their heads down until the coup is resolved.

        Me, if I was a civil servant I would be keeping my head down on the basis that the coup may well involve large numbers of people being shot, but civil servants suffer from normalcy bias and recency bias.

      • Pooch says:

        Haven’t seen that yet. Do you have any examples of reporters acting scared that they’ll lose?

        • The Cominator says:

          Scott Adams and Styx who watch CNN MSNBC and NBC news so I don’t have to said they didn’t look too happy after the last debate.

          I believe Scott Adams specifically said that Jake Tapper looked like he was in pain.

          • Javier says:

            Conservative sites are just posting unedited clips of biden saying he’ll ban fracking while Twitter and Facebook desperately append ‘misleading’ warnings to it.

  20. BC says:

    I think if Trump can get Barr to arrest Hunter Biden for money laundrying and corruption that would the end of this race.

  21. INDY says:

    Trump looking low status submitting to that street shitter with the mute button

    • Strannik says:

      Bullshit, pull the other one….

      Trump absolutely owned that debate hall tonight.

      • Mike says:

        I didn’t watch much of it, but from what I heard it sounds as if Trump actually liked the moderator. At least in comparison to Wallace anyway.

        • Pooch says:

          She was terrible and predictably blatantly biased against him but he was less combative with her, even complimenting her at one point

          • suones says:

            She gave both participants a fair shake, within the (prog) media frame. She did not run interference for Biden though, the way Wallace did.

            As my example, Trump finally got Biden to admit that he would “destroy the oil industry,” (a coup in itself) even though she was already moving on to the next question, I would’ve expected a rapid change of subject by the moderator. However, she paused immediately, and point-blank asked Biden, “Why would you do that!?” At that question Biden looked up and had a “deer in the headlights” look. He fumbled for a few seconds before stammering out “… bb … because … because it’s … polluting!” Joe Biden lost the election there.

        • Strannik says:

          She’s not as bad, and appears to be redeemable at least, doesn’t carry herself like a butch dyke anyway. But yes, Trump owned it tonight. Probably won the election right there.

      • Mr.P says:

        What Trump just did to 60 Minutes is genius, film the filming of a hostile MSM interview and release his film of the filming before the enemy airs its official version of the interview.

        Has a U.S. politician, in the entire history of the nation, ever thrust a mirror in the face of the enemy so that all can see the dark face of the enemy so starkly? This has to be unprecedented.

        Genius. Pure genius. The guy is an inspired blood-thirsty magnificent bastard genius.

        • Not Tom says:

          Eh, he just did exactly the same thing Cernovich did a few years back.

          The problem with these stunts is that the people who would actually watch the 60 Minutes interview (or any other legacy media pablum) aren’t going to see the unedited tapes. The only people who will watch those are your fans. Which in the case of Trump is a lot of people, I guess, but they’re all people who already don’t trust the media.

          I’m sure he had his reasons for doing it and I’ve learned generally not to question Trump’s overall media strategy, but I think you’re laying it on just a little thick.

          • Mr.P says:

            > I think you’re laying it on just a little thick.

            Maybe so. Probably.

            But I don’t agree with the word “stunt.”

            I watched the entire 37 minutes and marveled: “Swamp, meet drain.”

            This morning, what Trump did to 60 Minutes is the subject of blog posts, tweets, and “news” stories.

            These things have a way of getting around.

      • INDY says:

        He caught his stride towards the end. “ten seconds and we have to move on,” “two minutes uninterrupted.” So gay.

  22. Strannik says:

    President Trump shellacked Biden, by letting Biden be Biden. It’s done I think, it only gets even worse for the Liberals from this point.

    I say they’ll be too demoralized, to vote Biden in, or to act up much after President Trump wins re-election.

    • Not Tom says:

      Even though he didn’t really have a choice, I concur that “letting” Biden run his mouth off was ultimately a good thing. Interrupting is obviously more alpha, but Trump hasn’t proven all that great at twisting the knife in a debate as opposed to in his own monologues – he tends to veer off on tangents and fail to get the kill shots. A better opponent than Biden might have been able to leverage the two-on-one situation and really make things difficult for Trump, but Biden himself is too weak and too senile.

      And Trump didn’t let them ignore the Hunter emails. That was important, because of the memory-holing in legacy media; a lot of people actually did hear about it for the first time tonight.

      Votes don’t matter in this election, but normies knowing about the Biden family corruption is a win for legitimacy reasons.

      • Strannik says:

        Overall we can agree that it was a good outcome. They won’t present it that way, but the people know better.

      • Pooch says:

        I agree. My only compliant is he didn’t really remind the audience that he is the law and order candidate and that Antifa mobs will return 10 fold under Biden, but it seems the softer less combative image worked by letting Biden hang himself.

        • Strannik says:

          Yes. He did remind the people of the crime in the cities controlled by Democrats though.

  23. Pseudo-chrysostom says:

    Trump says ‘Biden is going to raise taxes’; Biden says ‘im not going to raise taxes, im just going to (((make the rich pay their fair share)))’. Which is to say, raise taxes.

    The ‘fair share’ meme is a common rhetorical expression of the Pie Theory of economics; that is to say, the idea that the ‘pie’ always and already exists in state – perhaps emmanating from the aether – and that the only relevant question is who gets what slices in appropriation.

    So you know owners of capital get squeezed; and so prices go up, wages go down, potency facilitating activity contracts; and so in the end you have less to pay with anyways, but as an added bonus, have less to pay *for*, to boot.

    • Pseudo-chrysostom says:

      There is a distinctive tone you can hear from bluechecks when they are trying to anesthetize people wish to target from sensing dangers; ‘you dont have to worry about X, youre not going to lose Y, theres nothing wrong with Z’, and so on like that. It’s like a peculiar combination of trying to sound reassuring, yet also disdainful at the same time; like they just can’t quite contain the feelings of contempt they have for whomever it is they are speaking too.

    • fduvsd says:

      > in the end you have less to pay with anyways, but as an added bonus, have less to pay *for*, to boot.

      This is a desirable outcome to them. Shared misery is more satisfying for the covetous than others’ wealth. The USSR worked on this principle, and it sort of worked for a long time. The real solution is to make covetousness low status, but that is beyond the Left’s ability.

  24. Strannik says:

    Jim you said with regards to Orthodoxy outside of Russia that;

    ”Orthodoxy outside of Russia is overrun by entryists, most of them demon worshipers.”

    There’s still a few of us outside of Holy Rus that keep the Christian faith. Many of the Greeks and Arabs will go to the Vatican, most Slavs will not.

    • suones says:

      > There’s still a few of us outside of Holy Rus that keep the Christian faith

      In which case, you need to go back. If you’re an economic migrant who can’t go back easily, at least send your family back, especially your wife and children (if young). Western society is heavily infiltrated by Moloch, and there is no Church you can turn to. To wit, “Russian Orthodoxy” is only actually Orthodox when under Baba Yaga’s Russia’s nuclear umbrella.

      • jim says:

        That is excessively pessimistic. The husband is the priest of his family. Christianity has survived persecution before.

        • suones says:

          It is better to avoid persecution than to survive it, especially persecution in a foreign land.

        • Strannik says:

          Overt persecution is one thing, while the slow and quiet persecution of the heretics within the fold is quite another. Eventually we always expel them, and they dwindle and get worse or return in penitence.

      • The Cominator says:

        Strannik I know from another forum, I believe he has told me his wife is Russian but he is not. I believe he wants to fight the good fight against Moloch here in his home country at least until such point he believes its hopelessly lost.

        There may come a time to admit things are hopelessly lost and to flee and think of ourselves but that time is not now, not while Donald Trump is President. The war still goes on and good men must still fight for their own land while it can still be saved.

        • Strannik says:

          I have a Slavic background, I don’t go out of my way to give more personal details because I wouldn’t want to be doxxed, for one thing.

        • suones says:

          > Strannik I know from another forum, I believe he has told me his wife is Russian but he is not. I believe he wants to fight the good fight against Moloch here in his home country at least until such point he believes its hopelessly lost.

          Oh. In that case, my apologies to you, Strannik. If Moloch is at your doorstep, you are honour bound to fight him, to the bitter end, if need be. Death is not the worst of evils, as one of your prophets proclaimed. Deus vult! to you, brother.

          If I may be so bold as to suggest, you could also consider re-affirming the faith of your fathers. Even if every last Church is pozzed, if you have Jesus Christ to protect you, you need fear nothing. People work best with their own biologically determined social programming. You may ask your wife to convert, of course. Either way, my best wishes and prayers for you. I really hope that America becomes great again.

          • Strannik says:

            No need for apologies, we’re all on a journey, and I wish you well on your journey also.

      • Strannik says:

        I do not subscribe to your opinions on Christianity and Polytheism, specifically more to Slavic myths and legends. However I tend to believe that the ”gods” of Indo-European/Aryan Mythology were heroes of old who fought the forces of darkness, and often distorted memories of the worthies of the Old Testament.

        Orthodoxy however is universal, because God as worshiped in His Right Belief is universal by definition.

        I will do what God wills.

        • suones says:

          > I will do what God wills.

          Amen to that.

          Priestly discussion is entertainment. The above is what actually matters.

  25. Strannik says:

    Mike you said as to faggotry and Orthodoxy;

    ”Depends, the EP, the Schismatics in Ukraine, and a lot of Greek Orthodox in America are flaming faggots due to US State Department infiltration. Just look at Fordham University for evidence that yes, even the Orthodox are not immune from globohomo.”

    No. What I mean is, they’re not fooling anybody who is actually Orthodox Christian. Even the Roman Catholic Church has called itself ”Orthodox”, doesn’t make it so. With Orthodoxy, it’s a way of life and belief passed down to people, Orthodox converts and those born into the Christian faith alike. You can’t fake it, all you can do is turn people against it so that it declines further in membership. There are the ”Old Believers”, and there are the traditional so-called ”Old Calendar” Orthodox Christians, they’ll still be around regardless of what so-called ”official” Orthodoxy says or does, they’re on their way to joining the Roman Catholic Church as it is…

  26. yewotm8 says:

    I really get the feeling that they will not pull the trigger on civil war any time soon. Perhaps next election, but I feel from watching fake news that they sense their current position is too weak to have a chance right now.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-after-compromising-scene-in-new-borat-film

    The fact that they felt desperate enough to throw out this stuff is so weak. So he follows attractive young woman up to her room, seems like sex will ensue, suddenly weird jew jumps into the room and suggests that she is below age of consent, despite her being actually 24 and an alleged journalist (was it for her highschool paper? Come on, man). They are trying to make him look bad here but he really didn’t do anything wrong especially as a recently divorced man.

    Very obvious this is a pathetic attempt to distract/dissuade Giuliani from talking about the Bidens.

    • Strannik says:

      I agree.

      I think they know all this is a lost cause in 2020 AD, they will take their chances with a better Democratic candidate in 2024 after Trump, maybe even make a half-assed attempt at getting someone to imitate Trump’s Nationalist/Populist ideology to a degree.

      • Pooch says:

        If Biden loses and they don’t try Civil War it’s full speed ahead on Comrade AOC 2024.

        • Strannik says:

          That’s my gut feeling, her or Ilhan Omar, or both. I don’t see a Biden win or civil war just yet.

        • BC says:

          I’m guessing they’ve created so many fake ballots there won’t be anyway to avoid war.

          • Strannik says:

            I doubt that seriously. fake ballots can be ”lost” or otherwise disposed of, loose ends tied up.

            As i’ve said before, at this point in some respects I think they must want President Trump for another four years, because they haven’t fully transitioned into their next phase of insanity and need time to weed out the more normal sorts.

            He’s their excuse for the more radical actions they want to take later, like nominate obvious enemies of western civilization for President like Ilhan Omar.

            It could also (or alternatively) be the case that throwing the election for Trump is a last hurrah for the more normal Democratic establishment, they having denied Sanders the nomination once more and put in Biden for a reason. Trump may be more preferable to them than total batshit insanity.

            • Pooch says:

              I see them still acting as if it is beyond the realm of possibility that Biden could possibly lose.

              • Strannik says:

                I can’t 100% deny that possibility, that some believe that Biden will win. But if that’s the top leadership that thinks that, then they are in bigger trouble than I first realized.

                Because then they’re not ”election-capable”, not having the slightest civic virtue of conceding an election that they have clearly lost, as most normal people would do under ordinary circumstances in modern times.

                If that is the case, the only option left is that of dealing with rebels under the legal constitutional aegis of article 4 section 4 of the US Constitution; ”Article 4 – The States. Section 4 – Republican Government. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence. ”

  27. notglowing says:

    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1319064626458492930
    “Intelligence” anything saying something good for Trump? Weird

    • Pooch says:

      DNI Ratcliffe is Trump’s guy and our guy. Everyone else in the intelligence community is basically an enemy.

  28. laxatives, enemas, catheters, and ipecac says:

    The Pope has come out in support of anal marriage.

    • fgggtttttttt says:

      Is the Pope Catholic?

      • jim says:

        Not any more.

        • The Cominator says:

          Well on the other hand by longstanding precedent that every Papist accepts Catholicism is whatever the Pope says it is.

          Sedevacantists use a rather absurd LONG chain of logical contortions to get around this (it sort of makes sense to them but the explanation of it still just seems bizarre to an outsider) but I don’t really agree, once you accept Dictatus Papae you accept the ability of the Pope to make you worship Moloch…

          • jim says:

            What we call in the computer business a single point of failure.

            The community of saints, the dead, have to be able to overrule the living. You have to be able to appeal to ancient consensus. Otherwise Chesterton’s fence is going to come down.

            • The Cominator says:

              And this also needs to be the ethos of a Western monarchist state, no law will technically bind the monarch but tradition and custom SHOULD bind the monarch and a monarch who is too eager to overturn applecarts by fiat and violate freehold should tend to end up like Charles I.

              Monarchs should not be in the business of arbritrarily raising taxes in peacetime or taking people’s property and such things…

            • The Cominator says:

              The living can overrule the dead in Orthodoxy but not via one man only a council can change established tradition, and because the Orthodox don’t see too much wrong with their tradition as is I don’t think there has been a council of the whole church in I think 7 centuries.

              • Strannik says:

                Councils can’t change tradition, because tradition comes from God through the Apostles and their successors.

            • Mike in Boston says:

              The community of saints, the dead, have to be able to overrule the living. You have to be able to appeal to ancient consensus.

              St. Vincent of Lérins, venerated in both the East and the West, agrees with you, writing “Hold fast that faith which has been believed everywhere, always and by all.”

            • bjorn says:

              Jim isn’t this comment in tension with your past claims of the necessity of centralized rule? Any sovereign mortal authority, whether temporal or spiritual, must be unilateral, because the true ruler is he who rules in cases of exception. Which means that a Pope can unilaterally giveth rightism and he can taketh rightism away, as Francis is now doing. But what religious power structure would you suggest would better determine the parameters of this virtuous “ancient consensus”? It’s necessarily going to take the form of either monarchy, oligarchy, or democracy (aka half-assed oligarchy). Either way, men will be making decisions, and inevitably some percentage of the decisions men make are bad. If you have in mind a way to prevent that I’m all ears.

              • jim says:

                The state, Ceasar, the Sovereign, handles those matters that require unity of command.

                Unity of command is not how you get technology, it is not how you get technology, and it is not how you get a sound religion.

                Even firms need an internal market when they become large.

                • bjorn says:

                  But it is necessarily the sovereign that will decide when the sovereign ought to intervene. Otherwise he isn’t sovereign. If he misjudges which matters require unity of command and which don’t, who exactly is going to tell him he’s wrong, without implicitly challenging his right to rule?

                • jim says:

                  Same with religion as with market and technology. The Sovereign can intervene in any matter, but if he intervenes in every matter, the state is going to hell in a handbasket.

                  Obviously Putin is quietly having a great deal of influence on how the supposedly unchanging doctrines of orthodoxy are being interpreted and applied – but no one, least of all Putin, is going to say that doctrine is whatever Putin says it is.

                • bjorn says:

                  If the temporal/spiritual authority is subordinate to ancient consensus, then it is not the monarch/pope that is in charge, it is whoever determines the latest fashionable interpretation of ancient consensus aka the most smooth-tongued con-artist in the land.

                • jim says:

                  At that point, you do need central authority, the Archbishop and the Grand Inquisitor – but Putin is curing the degeneracy of Russian Orthodoxy without claiming the authority to make up doctrine ex Cathedra.

                  The amount of damage that smooth-tongued con-artists can do is limited. What can do a great deal of damage is a holiness spiral, the pharisees being the classic example. And you do need central authority to stop holiness spirals. But central authority seems to be quite able to stop holiness spirals without claiming the authority to re-invent doctrine

                • suones says:

                  Let’s talk about the here and now. The Pope, the infallible head of the Catholic Church, commands you to celebrate sodomy. What do you do here now?

                  Dictatus papae vs Sin of Sodom. Pick one.

                • Not Tom says:

                  I don’t see any contradiction. The sovereign is head of the warriors, and since warriors > priests, he may also appoint a head priest, if necessary. But he isn’t required to, and certainly isn’t required to acknowledge the authority of some international/supranational priestly authority.

                  The Pope isn’t a sovereign, he’s a skinsuit-wearing faggot with an inflated sense of self-importance in a distant land, with a dwindling number of followers who share his delusion.

                • Ex says:

                  I deny that the Pope has commanded this. I deny twice that he has infallibly commanded this.

                • jim says:

                  The Roman Catholic Church is in fact acting as if it is a command. It will be infallible by and by, probably as one item of large bundle of new doctrine.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Once you accept Dictatus Papae you accept the ability of the Pope to command you to worship Moloch because you have blasphemously accepted that the pope speaks with Christ’s voice and the Donatist heresy.

                  The Orthodox understanding this did not accept Dictatus Papae.

          • Pooch says:

            True Catholics of old type Chrsitianity acknowledge the Vatican as currently being occupied by Satan, thus ignore the Pope.

          • Strannik says:

            It’s really not even that complicated. Orthodoxy is right, the West was wrong in following the heresy of Papism. The real ”Catholic Church” is with Orthodox Christianity, and always was.

            • jim says:

              Exactly so. The Great Schism was a grab by Rome for what was Caesar’s.

            • Pooch says:

              Is Orthodox outside of Putin endorsing faggotry?

              • Strannik says:

                No, or they wouldn’t be Orthodox, it’s as simple as that. We’re not in it for the numbers, but for being faithful to Jesus Christ the Son of God, Second Person of the Blessed Trinity.

                • Mike says:

                  Depends, the EP, the Schismatics in Ukraine, and a lot of Greek Orthodox in America are flaming faggots due to US State Department infiltration. Just look at Fordham University for evidence that yes, even the Orthodox are not immune from globohomo.

                • jim says:

                  Orthodoxy outside of Russia is overrun by entryists, most of them demon worshipers.

              • neofugue says:

                Orthodoxy outside Russia is a mixed bag; it depends on the jurisdiction.

                Jordanville is quiet and solid. About a month ago it was fined for not upholding social distancing guidelines, so if the Progs hate them it’s a good thing.

                Overall, a defining issue that separates the “good” Orthodox from the “bad” Orthodox is the issue of Ecumenism, or Progressivism in the church. OCA, GOARCH, and the Ecumenical Patriarchate are in support of the movement. A good litmus test of an Orthodox Christian is to see if they like the American hieromonk Seraphim Rose, who spoke fervently against the movement.

                However, Orthodoxy is not dependent on an all-powerful infallible universal jurisdiction of the Papacy like Catholicism, so people in high places who worship demons do not impact the legitimacy of the faith.

                • Strannik says:

                  Well said, and on those defining issues I agree and are against them, they’re heresy, but I personally go a little further and am on the borderline of being close to the so-called ”Old Calendar” and ”Old Believer” positions in my Orthodoxy. Just not into innovation in apostolic tradition from the fathers, and very aware of infiltration in high places by crypto-papists.

  29. Shameful that Kamala Harris can stoop to this level. But then it’s expected, given her nature.

    Been widely reported in the Indian media…

    https://indianexpress.com/article/world/us-elections-2020-kamala-harris-niece-twitter-photo-durga-hindus-6803366/

    Hindus are naturally furious. But then the progressives in our community will naturally turn a blind eye to this outrage.

    • Sam says:

      For progs, shitting on what you value is a feature not a bug. How else can you demonstrate power then by causing others to suffer?

      • Also, note the symbolism from Hindu mythology:
        In the image, Kamala Harris, depicted as goddess Durga, was seen killing US President Donald Trump, who was depicted as buffalo demon ‘Mahishasura’. [Reuters]

        So the democrats seem to be clearly signalling what their plan is with respect to Donald Trump.

        • BC says:

          On reddit’s /r/politics they’ve been discussing arresting and executing Trump, his family and anyone who worked for him for a while now. They use slightly guarded terms, but they’re intent is quite clear.

          • Not Tom says:

            I wonder if anyone’s compiled a list of all the times prominent figures in the establishment have openly used this imagery, called for “Truth and Reconciliation Commissions” and so on. Could be a useful thing to circulate in about a week.

            Getting it out would be a challenge, although I could maybe see Breitbart printing it.

          • Pooch says:

            It really is startling how quickly the arrest and execution of Trump has become solidly within the Overton window. I saw a shitlib on my timeline post something about Trump mentioning he would leave the country if he lost, which should be prevented at all costs as an issue of national security because he would give secrets to the Russians, or something.

            • Encelad says:

              Wherever on reddit and other forums it is mentioned that Trump could be leaving the country, leftists overwhelmingly agree that it would be for him to avoid prison, implying they all expect him to be jailed should Biden win.

              https://archive.is/X5acO

              Can’t tell if they truly believe that getting rid of Trump will finally spring the progressive Utopia instead of plunging the nation further through bloody revolution… Or if they actually know the mass killings will ensue and they actually want mass killings to happen.

              • Pooch says:

                They want mass killings of Trump, his family, and all Trump supporters to bring about the progressive Utopia.

              • BC says:

                Only far left voices are allowed on reddit these days. It used to take me months off effective attacks on leftists to get me banned on major subs these days it takes less than 2 hours.

                • evilrightwingbot says:

                  The DarkEnlightenment sub has been effectively shadowbanned. Was recently brigaded by leftists. I’m actually surprised I didn’t get banned because I called an Indian woman a faggot repeatedly, not knowing she was a woman. She claimed to be a jannie and said to me directly that the only people she hates are white.

        • Strannik says:

          Oh, I’m sure that President Trump and his group around him knew in 2015 that they had to either win entirely or face prison or worse as a consequence of failure. So failure to them cannot be an option and never was.

    • INDY says:

      “Shameful that Kamala Harris can stoop to this level.”

      What behavior? Her niece posted the photo. Who cares about india anyway?

      • Not Tom says:

        Who cares about india anyway?

        Indians.

        • jim says:

          India is a nuclear power. It has a low IQ majority, but several high IQ minority races/castes capable of producing science and technology, though unfortunately their fertility has collapsed.

          We should hope for an India governed by its high IQ minorities, and hope for an India that allows them high fertility.

          • swsfbc says:

            Re: Indian elite fertility

            Kamala Harris is a prime example of Indian elite degeneracy. Her mother is a Brahmin from the South Indian ethno-linguistic state of Tamil Nadu (literally “Tamil State”). Her emigrating to the US and marrying outside the community is basically a huge shit-test, that’s all.

            https://nationalfile.com/busted-kamalas-high-caste-family-connected-to-indias-military/

            Indian Brahmins, especially women, are among the most pozzed communities in India. Makes sense, as priests are the most apt to fall into purity spirals without warriors in-charge.

          • I consider it a discredit to India’s competent elite that they seem content with living on top of a gigantic pile of garbage, both literal and human. Even China goes through an obscenely violent civil war or autogenocide every few centuries like a spring cleaning.

  30. Not Tom says:

    “Justice” John Roberts shows his true colors, I hope for the very last time: https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/10/19/supreme-court-rejects-republican-challenge-to-pennsylvania-vote-by-mail-changes-4-4-split-roberts-sides-with-liberals/

    And they didn’t even issue an explanation with their ruling, because why bother? Everyone knows it’s a partisan vote and nothing more. It figures that they’d cram this ruling through less than 1 week before the ACB vote.

    People need to start seeing more of the strong horse again. This kind of news, along with Trump passively going along with the absurd rule changes for the last debate (now they’re silencing mics in addition to changing the topics), isn’t a good look a mere 2 weeks before the election. It looks kind of desperate, like he still needs the legacy media. Maybe he does? One of the pundits said “he needs this debate to get the word out about Hunter Biden”, and I’m not sure they’re wrong, but it’s now evident that they have no intention of letting him talk about it on the debate stage.

    But then I’m usually wrong when I criticize Trump’s strategy, so I guess we’ll see.

    • BC says:

      The DOJ and FBI doing nothing is making Trump look real weak as is the murder of his supporters by Antaifa. Failure to arrest Hunter Biden is going to look almost as bad as the evidence that Joe and Hunter Biden are corrupt.

      John Faggot has long been on the list of Enemies of the Republic, no surprise there.

      • Not Tom says:

        Yeah, but siding with the leftist judges on this one and actively subverting a national election should be an impeachable offence. A SCOTUS judge has never been impeached but this would be legitimate grounds for it in the public eye, at least for non-leftists who are the only ones who matter. They need to get rid of him come 2021, doesn’t matter whether or not they have a “conservative majority”.

        The last Antifa shooter has been brought up on murder 2 charges so I wouldn’t say nothing is being done. The DA will probably try to throw the match, but so far it’s proceeding, and trials won’t start until after the election, at which point (assuming team Trump has actually learned anything) it won’t matter anymore.

        In my opinion, the most important thing now is to be taking a strong stand against those obviously interfering with the election: social media, the debate commission, and any states and courts openly preparing for mail-in fraud. We can say that none of it will actually matter, but morale matters and the “troops” will have higher morale if it looks like Trump’s side actually tried to fight.

        • BC says:

          >The last Antifa shooter has been brought up on murder 2 charges so I wouldn’t say nothing is being done. The DA will probably try to throw the match, but so far it’s proceeding, and trials won’t start until after the election, at which point (assuming team Trump has actually learned anything) it won’t matter anymore.

          That’s a fair point and I detected a distinct fear sounding the decision to keep him locked up. I think if they did release him he’d be dead within days, possibly on federal charges where he resisted arrest from Federal Marshals. I think the DA charged simply to keep him safe. I’m firmly convinced that Trump had the the other Antifa murder killed based on the way Trump talks about it.

          • Pooch says:

            Yeah I thought I read somewhere that Trump openly stated in one of his rallies that the marshals didn’t go to arrest him that day.

    • Shelby says:

      [*deleted because Shelby has not finished the Mueller test*]

    • Mike says:

      Ehhhhhh, bit too blackpilled. Trump can’t do anything about what the court justices do, not until shit hits the fan anyway. Being angry at Trump for what Justice Roberts does would be like getting angry at him for what Romney does. Not appointed by him, not really a part of his mission or ideology. Sucks that Robert’s a cuck of course, but Trump can’t just get rid of him until we get past the veneer of normalcy. For now, everyone is still pretending (well maybe the Left isn’t) that the law is still being interpreted as law, and not as simply political will-to-power.

      In regards to the debate, Trump stood strong on their original proposition, which was to have a virtual debate. Trump correctly denounced that as ridiculous and as a win for the Democrats if it went forward. He’s agreeing to these still slanted rules because he wants to get in some last jabs I guess.

      • Not Tom says:

        Roberts isn’t a cuck, he’s an enemy. People need to realize that. He’s set up like John McCain in that he’ll vote with the right when it doesn’t matter, either when he knows he won’t be the deciding vote or when the case just isn’t very important to what the left is doing at that moment. Whenever he can actually help the left, he does. That’s not a cuck, it’s a plant.

        Anyway, I wasn’t mad at Trump for Roberts’s decision, I mentioned them as two separate things. I am annoyed that he’s still agreeing to this sham of a debate even after he explicitly said he wouldn’t; it looks weak.

  31. Shelby says:

    [*deleted because Shelby has not finished the Mueller test*]

  32. Pooch says:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-announces-charges-russian-gru-officers-allegedly-involved/story?id=73698190

    And people are surprised why Durham is not indicting anyone. Trump has zero control of the DOJ or the FBI and it’s increasingly becoming obvious gaining control of federal law enforcement and prosecution is a coup complete problem.

    • Strannik says:

      Everybody knows these charges are bullshit and none of these people are in or will be in the United States. It’s a throwaway.

      • Pooch says:

        The fact that this seems to be the highest priority of the DOJ at the moment (and prosecuting ISIS sand monkeys for beheadings 10 years ago) instead of prosecuting domestic terrorists and coup plotters that are actively subverting the country is very telling of the currant state of the DOJ. They are 100% owned by the Left.

    • isaac newton says:

      I’m not surprised. trump is so far ahead you might consider it a distraction that would get more Democrats to the polls. also they’ve still got three weeks. when would be maximum impact? also there’s not much point in arresting them until they do something about the problem of corrupt judges. they’ve Got to arrest the corrupt judges at the same time, or do it with military tribunals, and that’s probably waiting till after the election.

    • Not Tom says:

      If Trump had zero control of the DoJ, then the DoJ would not have withdrawn its charges against Flynn, would not be fighting a protracted legal battle against Emmett Sullivan and the DC circuit to get the charges dropped, and would not be dumping all kinds of incriminating Obamagate information into the public domain as part of that process.

      If Trump had zero control over the FBI, then the FBI would not have released multiple reports on mail-in voting fraud, exposed the Bubba Wallace hoax, or tracked down the psycho who recently sent the ricin letter.

      Obviously Trump does not have complete control of these organizations, especially in the case of the FBI, but you’re posting demoralization porn again. Just calm down, think, reflect. There are thousands of individuals working for every government bureau, some are pro-Trump, some are anti-Trump, and some – especially the “front line” personnel – really don’t care and just want to do their jobs.

      • mifrost says:

        flynn is still in court. nothing has actually been dropped.

        • Not Tom says:

          I literally covered this in the post you replied to. It’s Emmett Sullivan and the DC circuit dragging it out, and the DoJ is fighting them. The DoJ’s lawyer isn’t pulling any punches either.

          What do you want them to do, disappear the judge? Maybe someday that kind of thing will happen, but we’re not there yet.

      • The Cominator says:

        The FBI and CIA have been bad enough that they need to be completely destroyed IMHO…

        I don’t believe Durham is corrupt or cares about what people think of him, he was certainly willing to make the FBI and Justice Department look bad in the Whitey Bulger case but he is very slow and there is only so much you can do being a lone man pissing into the wind.

        • Mike in Boston says:

          Angelo Codevilla knows quite a bit about the CIA:

          When I started working for the Senate, some folks at the agency figured out that I wasn’t a run-of-the-mill staffer. So I was visited by one of the old boys who took me up to the director’s office—the director wasn’t there at the time. He took me up via the director’s elevator, he had a key. And showed me all around and was very, very clubby with me. Then they took me to his house, which is overlooking the Potomac, with these large wolfhounds sitting about. And essentially, he said the equivalent of “all this could be yours.”

          If you play the game. I said to myself, “Hmmmm, what did the Lord say to all this?”

          and he has reached the same conclusion as the Cominator:

          CIA must be disestablished. Its functions should be returned to the Departments of State, Defense, and Treasury. […] Intelligence must return to its natural place as servant, not master, of government.

    • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

      Trump’s son just said in an interview that his father needs to dismantle the FBI should he win. Ostensibly that’s only his opinion. But saying it openly, Trump’s *son* saying it openly, is a good sign.

      Trump has been the Great Clarifier and the battle lines come into every sharper focus as E-Day approaches.

      • Pooch says:

        That’s excellent news of true. Maybe that’s why Trump hasn’t fired Wray. It’d really just be putting lipstick on a pig.

  33. Encelad says:

    They are about to go in full Robespierre mode:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RBReich/status/1317614803704115200

    “When this nightmare is over, we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. It would erase Trump’s lies, comfort those who have been harmed by his hatefulness, and name every official, politician, executive, and media mogul whose greed and cowardice enabled this catastrophe.”

    • Publius says:

      As usual, Jim was right. If the left gains power, they’re going to create a Committee of Public Safety, and the first thing that committee will do is imprison or kill Trump and his entire family. But they won’t stop there. Will it end at a few thousand political proscriptions? Or will we go full Khmer Rouge? There’s no way to tell. What is certain is that the left feels a collective thirst for revenge and their thirst will be quenched only by blood. Victory for us is existential, because the left is literally and totally insane and they are in a completely real sense coming to kill us all.

      • The Cominator says:

        And knowing this in the event of victory for our side we should carry out a comprehensive sweeping Suharto style final solution to the leftist problem.

        Oh you posted something pro Biden on your facebook once… come with us.

        • Dave says:

          Oh you have a blue check-mark on Twitter… come with us.

        • James says:

          You’re going to need more than a pro-Biden facebook post. There are plenty of people who live under circumstances that force them to fake support of the left publicly not to mention countless normies.

    • Not Tom says:

      He’s right to mock the people calling it “undemocratic”, though. It doesn’t get much more democratic than that.

      They’re playing for keeps this time. They know it, we know it, and even some of the flaky moderates are starting to figure it out. All that matters now is whether the anti-left has the will to stop them.

  34. Strannik says:

    It’s looking like we may not be seeing a Biden/Harris ticket win in 2020;

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/oh-boy-hunter-bidens-computer-camera-roll-turned-bannon-giuliani-contains-25000-images-sexually-explicit-selfies-porn/

    ”Neither Hunter Biden’s lawyer nor Joe Biden’s campaign have disputed the validity of the trove of data that The Post obtained after being extracted from a MacBook Pro laptop. The owner of a Delaware computer repair shop said the device was dropped off in April 2019 but never retrieved.

    A computer camera roll of nearly 25,000 images is loaded with sexually explicit selfies and porn (which The Post is not publishing), but also has snapshots from Biden’s childhood and vacations.”

    • Publius says:

      It is painfully obvious that we’re going to see the media proclaim Biden the winner no matter how the vote breaks. All you people following the electoral horse race don’t understand that we’ve *already left* the regime of peaceful and legitimate democratic transition of power. These scandals don’t matter. The votes don’t matter. The court decisions on ballot counting don’t matter. Hunter Biden’s degeneracy doesn’t matter Nobody, left or right, is going to concede the election on the basis of these antique artifacts of a calmer era.

      The game is now about pure power and counting heads. Even as we read this blog, leaders and operatives on both sides are quietly counting heads and exchanging whispered assurances with men with guns. After the election, whatever will happen will happen *fast*, and it’ll be a long time before we know the ground truth of the events of the next few months. There will be confusion, lies, and most likely violence. Nobody’s going to give a damn about the vote tallies. When the dust settles, the voting records will be adjusted to support whoever wins the real contest.

      • The Cominator says:

        The vote tallies will matter to normie soldiers and some normie Praetorians though.

        If the Democrats were to attempt to seize power with no support among men with guns it would be the best thing that could possibly happen. Trump could read the insurrection act and just start shooting people in the government for treason.

        • Publius says:

          Between the filling of the military’s ranks with bioleninist toxic waste and the wokeness of the officer corps (which is rampantly woke for the same reason every elite institution is rampantly woke), the leftists will absolutely be able to find a large number of humans (if not real men) with guns. The leftists can and will oppose Trump’s remaining in power no matter how the vote goes. I don’t know where your optimism is coming from. Trump isn’t Napoleon. He’s not going to beat his chest and induce entire divisions to defect. I worry about Trump having adequate armed support (particularly air assets). You seem to be living in a world where woke generals order the deposition of Trump and nobody listens. That’s very far from what’s going to happen.

          • The Cominator says:

            “Between the filling of the military’s ranks with bioleninist toxic waste and the wokeness of the officer corps (which is rampantly woke for the same reason every elite institution is rampantly woke), the leftists will absolutely be able to find a large number of humans (if not real men) with guns.”

            I think its only the generals who are especially pozzed. There are still plenty of warrior Colonels they just don’t make general.

            • Mike in Boston says:

              plenty of warrior Colonels they just don’t make general

              I believe the ceiling is above Lieutenant Colonel. The exception I know who got to full bird without being politically acceptable did so with the understanding that he would retire shortly thereafter.

          • Anonymous 2 says:

            I expect that the Democrats will at a minimum muddle the electoral outcome to the extent they can and then simply proclaim Trump’s second term illegitimate. They will then turn up the heat further.

            In case of a hot civil war, which at this time does not seem quite as near as it used to, the main issue will be logistics and supply chains. Perhaps not so easy to refuel and repair one’s planes and tanks when there is no safe home base to be used, if you see what I mean. I suppose we could count the military bases abroad and see what capabilities they have available. Subs could also be a quite interesting factor.

        • jim says:

          Color Revolution formula: The color revolution announces electoral victory, regardless of facts on the ground. The official count disagrees. Pointless violence ensues, which pointless violence is used as cover for the real violence, a coup by disloyal elements of the apparatus of coercion. If the disloyal elements are defeated, the US airforce bombs the country flat. The question is, will the US airforce bomb America when ordered to do so?

          Another interesting question: What is the anti air capability of loyalist forces.

          • Not Tom says:

            I keep hearing that American air superiority around China and Russia isn’t what it used to be. Even if the Air Force pilots do agree to bomb their fellow citizens, which is not impossible but not nearly certain either, it may not make as much of a difference as it has historically made in third-world color revolutions. Anti-air has become very sophisticated while US aerospace tech has stagnated and the crafts themselves are barely maintained.

            The AF probably isn’t in quite as miserable shape as the nuclear arsenal, but it won’t be the sole deciding factor in a civil war/coup.

            • Mike says:

              The problem the Air Force has is many bases lack strong ground defenses. They are bases, not forts, after all. They also require regular deliveries of fuel and other supplies. If the surrounding territory is made so unsafe that truckers aren’t willing to drive up to their gate, they will wither on the vine. The base security forces are decent, but lacking in numbers. It’s mostly just a few gates and a chainlink fence.

              It’s going to be a problem no matter which side the AF takes.

              • Publius says:

                And you don’t think that air assets can protect supply lines? And what about the navy? The navy has its own air force, one that’s immune to the interdiction you’re proposing and that can reach out and touch any place in the US worth touching. And what about foreign air bases? No, your comment is more fantasy. Even if one side disrupted operations at *all* domestic air bases using the asymmetric means you propose, the other side would have enough air assets on the water and on foreign land to wipe out the insurgent side and not even break a sweat. Unopposed, *one* US aircraft carrier could do it.

                Something like what you propose would only work if the insurgent side could commandeer air bases with their assets fully intact and find trained people to actually fly and maintain these assets. In Syria, the rebels seized plenty of Assad’s air bases (especially early in the war) but the rebels couldn’t make use of their acquisitions because they didn’t have people to fly and maintain the aircraft. Why would insurgents in the US do any better? Sure, insurgents could turn smart loyal soldiers into pilots, but that training would take a long time.

                Might the insurgents capture pilots along with aircraft? Sure. But you can’t make captured pilots fly missions for you.

                • Mike says:

                  When I was at Bagram in Afghanistan we had an incident where some Korans wound up in a burn pit. It pissed off the locals so much there were countrywide riots. A lot of our supplies had to be trucked in and for a while we had shortages because truckers didn’t feel safe approaching our gates. We almost ran out of toilet paper and had to stop showering to conserve water.

                  I’ve always kept at minimum a 6 month supply of toilet paper on hand ever since. So it can be done.

                  You are also assuming that ALL air force facilities go one way or another, or ALL naval vessels go one way or another. It’s going to be a lot messier than that. And the typical stateside AFB just has a chainlink fence, not massive T walls like Bagram.

                  I had to do security forces augmentee work as well when I was in, so I got to ride around with SF personnel on patrol. For an entire stateside base on a single shift the total amount of people guarding the entire base at one time was maybe 30, 40 people, and 25% of those were stuck guarding gates, so the gaps and blind spots along the perimeter were huge.

                  And we get away with that because nobody is trying to break in and wreck our stuff.

                • jim says:

                  > And you don’t think that air assets can protect supply lines?

                  No air assets cannot protect supply lines. Air assets are for attacking the other guy’s supply lines.

                  The hierarchy of war is that soldiers can control civilians, a group of soldiers can control dispersed soldiers, artillery, tanks and air can control groups of soldiers, air power can control artillery and tanks, and fighters planes can control ground attack planes.

                  Drones are turning into unmanned ground attack planes, and anti air is turning into unmanned fighter planes.

                  But at the bottom, you still need boots on the ground. And without boots on the ground, your supply collapses. So in a civil war situation, if the air force obeys the deep state, and the cop on the beat obeys Trump, the air force is going to wither on the vine.

                • Reziac says:

                  The two airbases in territory I’m familiar with could be isolated by blockading one or two highways. When you have to airlift in jet fuel, it puts a crimp in your flight plans.

                  And as others note, they are defended on the ground by open space and/or chainlink fence.

                • Dave says:

                  Ten people showed up to hear Biden speak, but thousands of military personnel will show up to fight for him if the media says he won the election. Yeah, sure.

                  The problem with using the Air Force to carry out white genocide is that you first have to get all the white people out of the Air Force, which soon results in it not having any flyable aircraft, as happened in South Africa.

            • Publius says:

              Why would our air power compared to China and Russia matter for current purposes? Do you imagine these powers intervening? I don’t. They’re going to sit back and eat popcorn as the US implodes.

              The conflict we’re talking about will be fought between factions of the US military using US military assets. Our air defense in general is pretty lackluster even against Chinese and Russian planes. Our air assets will be even less effective against our own, which tend to have better stealth than the Chinese and Russian aircraft. We don’t have S-400s. US air strategy is to combat enemy air assets with fighters, not fixed missile emplacements.

              I don’t know where you’re getting this idea that US air capability has lapsed. There are thousands of planes in our various air forces, over 100,000 precision-guided munitions, and millions of conventional munitions. All of these assets work just fine, and (unlike our nuclear arsenal) they’re all regularly tested. On top of all that, we have long-endurance drones, high-capacity stealth bombers, and CAS assets.

              It is impossible to win a conventional modern war without air superiority. This idea was true 80 years ago, and it’s even more true now. The Iraqis learned that lesson well.

              Do you imagine running some of guerrilla campaign in lieu of a conventional war? Those things seldom achieve their stated ends. Guerrilla war is hopeless. The only way our imminent conflict becomes a long-duration conventional war is if both sides gain access to significant air assets. If one side or the other fails to do that, whichever side controls the air wins quickly and utterly.

              Of course the best outcome in any future conflict is the air force and navy pilots defecting to us en masse. But that’s not going to happen. It’s wishful thinking. In reality, either *all* the air force and navy pilots will obey the woke generals or *almost all* of them will. Any hope lies in this difference between “all” and “almost all” being big enough to provide short-term deterrence while the two sides stabilize and a more orderly conflict emerges.

              • Not Tom says:

                Why would our air power compared to China and Russia matter for current purposes? Do you imagine these powers intervening? I don’t. They’re going to sit back and eat popcorn as the US implodes.

                You wrote a lengthy reply that completely missed the point. At no time did I say or imply that Russia or China would intervene. It was simply a point to substantiate the fact that USAF isn’t very effective anymore against modern, organized militaries. Great for bombing third world countries with medieval technology back to the stone age, not so great for winning protracted wars against industrialized societies with competent leadership.

            • awildgoose says:

              Not Tom-

              If you look at the anti-air capabilities fielded by Russia and China, it is clear that both of them have very sophisticated, layered integrated air defense systems that are capable of dealing with everything from tiny drones to B-1Bs and B-52s.

              In comparison, US has the Patriot on land, the Standard missile at sea, and not much else as far as I can tell.

              • jim says:

                Russian anti air did not seem to do much good for Armenia.

                • BC says:

                  Got a link or general search terms for the air war with Armenia? Ever since the at home political war heated up I’ve completely stopped following foreign events not related to it.

                • jim says:

                  search TB2 Azerbaijan

                • Pseudo-chrysostom says:

                  Vatniks would probably say something along the lines of ‘export monkey models ))))))’

                • BC says:

                  That’s really impressive. I hope Trump has plans to avoid being taken out by drone strike.

                • awildgoose says:

                  Armenia doesn’t field the Russian Pantsir S1. That system is designed to counter the drones that have been effective for the Azeris.

                • ppbdrs says:

                  @awildgoose

                  A big difference is that Russia expects Armenia to buy materiel from it, while Turkey is supplying Azerbaijan for free on favourable loans.

                  The level of high tech coming out of Turkey surprised me. What wouldn’t surprise me would be that NATO has provided this tech to Turkey for great justive democracy and human rights.

          • Contaminated NEET says:

            Nobody is going to show up for this civil war, and the Left will get their color revolution by default. They control the organs of information, and they will muddy the waters enough that Constitutionalists and loyalists will be too confused and uncertain about what actually happened in the election to fight.

            Fighting this fight would take an intensity and a certainty that our side does not have the power to instill in our supporters. With the TV, the radio, the papers, the internet, and the educators unanimously proclaiming that Biden won the election, our rank-and-file will not have the righteous certainty to take up arms.

            >But NEET, nobody trusts the media liars!

            Bullshit. Extremist internet weirdos who post here might not, but normalfag conservatives/Constitutionalists absolutely do. They will mouth the right words, but then they consume the propaganda and believe it that it’s basically true, even if there is some “spin.” They might not end up believing in a clear Biden victory, but they will know the election was a mess with “undemocratic” shenanigans on both sides, and they won’t believe in a clear Trump victory either.

            • jim says:

              You are suffering from normalcy bias and recency bias. There is always a civil war in a left wing singularity. If we don’t get one this election, then 2024 or 2026.

              Things have been grossly abnormal, and rapidly getting more abnormal every year. If the house accepts one set of electoral college delegates, and the senate a different set, what happens then? Presumably the supreme court issues a ruling, but the Democrats have been delegitimizing the supreme court in preparation for and expectation of such a ruling. Given that preparation, they are not going to accept the supreme court ruling if it rules against them, which it likely will.

              The Democrats are running the color revolution script – which is intended to avoid civil war and be resolved quietly by coup, but often civil war ensues. They have screwed up color revolution many times before, and the conditions for color revolution this time around are less favorable.

              Every left singularity, civil war ensues eventually. In a large proportion of color revolutions, civil war ensues. We have a color revolution and a left singularity. No matter what the outcome, normalcy is not on the table.

              • Contaminated NEET says:

                Maybe we will get a civil war eventually, but 2020 or 2021 are far too early. Normalcy may not be on the table in the long run, but for now things still seem normal enough that the normalfags aren’t going to flip over the table. Food is on the shelves, the currency has value, electricity is flowing, and the people the Leftist mob destroys are few in number and can plausibly be painted as bad guys. The normalfags will not freak out when their conditions are OK and all the media tell them that the Left is justified and reasonable.

                • R7 Rocket says:

                  @Contaminated NEET

                  “Food is on the shelves”

                  Food was disappearing from the shelves early in the lockdown.

            • Not Tom says:

              Bullshit. Extremist internet weirdos who post here might not, but normalfag conservatives/Constitutionalists absolutely do [trust the media]

              They really don’t. Even the polls, which themselves skew left, have shown in recent years that fewer people trust the media than trust Trump. It’s really hilariously low, between maybe 15-40% depending on which surveys you look at. Trump has done more than any other president in history in terms of exposing the media for the liars and whores that they are.

              There’s a problem with memeplexes, sure. Normalfags and tradcucks obsess over “pedophilia” and QAnon and subscribe to color-blindness and muh free speech and other dumb classical liberal ideas. But these things won’t stop them from doing what they have to do to defend themselves, their families and their property.

              Look at gun sales in 2019-2020.

          • pyrrhus says:

            However, it is an open question whether jet fuel will continue to be available in quantity if there is a civil war…Most of the production and the refineries that make it are located in Red states, and pipelines are rather easy to sabotage….

            • The Cominator says:

              Fighter jocks and aircraft mechanics tend to be Trump type people (even if chair force bureaucrats and most of the navy tend to be Democrats). The leftist side of the civil war is going to find itself with both a shortage of pilots and maintenence problems.

            • Publius says:

              Again, supply interdiction against the air force as a whole is totally impossible. Even if you managed to shut down all domestic air bases, US airbases in foreign countries would still be able to operate and buy jet fuel from foreign sources. On top of that, aircraft carriers would still be able to launch sorties against US targets on the mainland and themselves refuel from foreign sources. All this talk about what’s located in red states doesn’t matter one damned bit because the US air force is global.

              Stop the wishful thinking already. The left isn’t going to just roll over and agree to be defeated. They’re going to have plenty of people on their side whom we’ll have to defeat. They’re going to have significant military assets, probably including capital ships and lots of aircraft. The left will never ever stop or give up ever. They’re going to have to be defeated inch by bloody inch. Blowing up a few pipelines in red states won’t even faze them.

              • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                Physical warfare comes from the weaker side thinking it has a good chance of winning, or of not being punished brutally if it loses.

                There is no way the first is true at the current level of troop support for Trump and the widespread belief among Trump supporters that election fraud is likely. Lefties are outnumbered and they know it or will quickly realize it in the escalation toward a potential hot war involving government soldiers.

                The top-down control organs of the left become less and less influential the more things escalate. The half-life of CNN’s relevance is a few hours into a real crisis develops, press conferences from the Pentagon a few days. Physical control is middle down, the colonels taking over (in fact and sometimes in name) from the generals.

                Being outnumbered 2-1 or more and hoping for media and top brass to fight and win the political war, or reach a truce that guarantees your safety after the shooting is over, is a slim and fickle branch to rest upon, and I don’t think the lefty troops will like their chances. More likely they sit it out waiting to see what happens between Antifa and the Car Parades (I think we know already) during the escalation.

              • jim says:

                > Again, supply interdiction against the air force as a whole is totally impossible.

                Supply interdiction against any one air force asset, or most of them separately, is dead easy, and is a huge problem with air force facilities near the enemy. The British were totally screwed in their recent middle eastern adventures for lack of boots on the ground. Their air superiority did not do them much good.

                And while our airforce is still reasonably functional, our navy is dead in the water because progressive domination always destroys that which it takes over. The qualities that make our air force still somewhat functional also make it less likely to obey orders to bomb Americans, and if they do bomb Americans without adequate boots on the ground, they are going to die.

                • Publius says:

                  > Supply interdiction against any one air force asset, or most of them separately, is dead easy, and is a huge problem with air force facilities near the enemy.

                  Yes, it’s a big problem for air bases near the enemy. An air base doesn’t have to be near an enemy to threaten that enemy. Many air bases are stationed far from mainland US territory and these air bases will nevertheless be able to attack it. For example, there is a major air base at Pearl Harbor. (Hawaii is deep blue territory.) It’s roughly a 2,300 flight from there to San Francisco. An F15E has a range of about 3,000 miles and can be refueled in the air. Why wouldn’t aircraft from Pearl Harbor be able to bomb the mainland US, especially if the mainland US has no functioning air defenses?

                  But aircraft won’t have to fly all the way from Pearl Harbor, because they’ll be able to fly from much closer aircraft carriers instead. How, exactly, are boots on the ground supposed to do anything against an aircraft carrier in the middle of the ocean? You need air assets of your own or good SAMs to counter aircraft. Boots on the ground by themselves won’t do it. Boots are necessary but not sufficient.

                  > our navy is dead in the water because progressive domination always destroys that which it takes over

                  Yes, progressive domination destroys everything, but the navy is not so destroyed that our ships and aircraft and missiles have literally stopped working. All the armed forces drill and practice regularly. They maintain a minimum level of competence in the routine drudgery of warfare. If nothing worked, if the navy were literally dead in the water, it would be obvious.

                  Yes, the navy occasionally crashes ships into each other. Embarrassing. But they move plenty of ships around without incident and the vast majority of naval aviation training missions happen without any aircraft blowing up at all.

                  You don’t need personnel at the height of excellence to make a plane take off, drop some bombs, and fly home. You need even less excellence to push the launch button on a cruise missile. Institutional decay isn’t a binary thing. An organization can be seriously rotten and still quite dangerous.

                  Do you really think the navy is so far gone that it can’t put munitions on targets *at all*? That the whole organization is so full of incompetence that they can’t operate their equipment at even a basic, robotic level? I don’t see any evidence of this level of decay.

                  > if they do bomb Americans without adequate boots on the ground, they are going to die.

                  It’s true that aircraft can’t hold territory and infantry can. But infantry by itself is no threat to aircraft. How exactly are boots on the ground going to reach up and hurt pilots in the sky? Those pilots aren’t going to die, not unless their side totally loses the war.

                  You’re arguing that the left is so dysfunctional that they can’t operate their equipment at all, that the ships won’t move and the catapults won’t work and the missiles won’t fire. I think that’s a dangerous underestimation of the enemy.

                • jim says:

                  > the navy is not so destroyed that our ships and aircraft and missiles have literally stopped working. All the armed forces drill and practice regularly. They maintain a minimum level of competence in the routine drudgery of warfare

                  Actually, the Navy no longer maintains minimum competence in the routine drudgery of warfare. Shaniqua’s incapacity was too embarrassing, so minimum competence in the routine drudgery of warfare was deemed racist, sexist, and unreasonable demand on the Navy’s limited resources. The routine drudgery of logistics continues, but the routine drudgery of maintenance is just drudgery but not maintenance.

                  And if we are able to physically subdue the mainland part of the airforce, we can then destroy the navy and far flung air bases.

                  > But infantry by itself is no threat to aircraft. How exactly are boots on the ground going to reach up and hurt pilots in the sky?

                  Pilots in the sky have to land. The battle of the Kokoda trail was all about Port Moresby airport. Ground troops, very large numbers of ground troops, were fighting other ground troops for control of the sky over the Coral Sea, while the airforce was largely ineffectual against either side, because the terrain made troops hard to find, tanks useless, and large concentrations of troops useless and impossible. The airforce was absolutely vital in controlling the Coral Sea. Whoever controlled Port Moresby airport would control the Coral Sea, and whoever controlled the Kokoda trail would control Port Moresby airport, but the airforce was utterly impotent to control the Kokoda trail.

                  Boots on the ground controlled air sea power in that battle. Air sea power did not control boots on the ground.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  > You’re arguing that the left is so dysfunctional that they can’t operate their equipment at all

                  It’s not enough for the left to have a lot of functional military people. They have to have entire functional units plus the belief among members of those units that Trump is not supported by a considerably larger number of functional units and functional personnel.

                  The fighting forces stationed in blue states have a composition similar to the national military, so there is no reason to think that e.g. California can just “take” its bases with it and secede or fight as a geographic unit. More likely is that the military in California can help subdue a rebellion in California.

                • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

                  Shaniqua and her fellow Democrats are over-represented in logistics and support staff, and under-represented in special forces and other high value combat troops. The tip of the spear is more white, male, rural, Christian, Southern or Midwestern, armed (before joining the military), and conservative than the military as a whole, let alone the entire USA. Like every other part of the calculus this favors Trump.

                • pyrrhus says:

                  The air force requires a steady supply of jet fuel and lubricants,, high tech spare parts, highly trained maintenance people,food and medical supplies and force protection for all that and the pilots…and yet the planes spend almost all their time on the ground….Not going to work if surrounded by a hostile population…

                • James says:

                  A Navy guy in the surface fleet once told me, “If we ever fight a war that depends on even one destroyer in our entire fleet being fully operational, we are fucked.”

          • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

            That overseas military ballots are being found in ditches tells you how it ends if the military gets involved. The police of course skew even further for Trump, having been put on notice that they will be the first target of purges (2021) and re-education (2022) under a Harris administration.

            I hope it will end earlier than that on the street, with Trump’s car parades going paramilitary in the event of a BLM-Antifa “uprising” in November.

        • James says:

          There are no normie Praetorians.

      • Strannik says:

        Really?

        I think that most of us here know that much of what really happens to determine things happens behind the scenes, and has been that way since, well, forever…

        Your scenario has been likely the real case with every election since 2000 AD, if not earlier, in America.

  35. David 'The Diversity Mastermind' Lammey says:

    My Yankee Friends,

    Follow ilhan Omar third world style this election –

    VOTE EARLY

    VOTE OFTEN

  36. R7 Rocket says:

    Trump has 100% support from every single police union. This should be useful to the President for the purpose of combating Democrat vote fraud. Nearly 900,000 law enforcement officers on President Trump’s side, vs a mere 14,000 armed FBI agents.

    • Publius says:

      Indeed. In addition, he has the support of significant fractions of the military. Trump could and should seize power and save the Republic in the same way that Augustus did. I can attribute his failure to do so only to a failure of imagination on his part.

      • Strannik says:

        Or, maybe he’s busy doing things behind the scenes while everyone else is absorbed one way or another by his crafted persona.

        • awildgoose says:

          This is highly likely.

          Word has surfaced that Steve Bannon is behind the release of the Hunter Biden information. Bannon recently claimed much more is coming.

          Bannon, along with Giuliani, appear to serve as Trump’s consiglieries.

          • Strannik says:

            Exactly. Sometimes, you’ve got to have people outside the government officially, in order to get things done.

          • Not Tom says:

            Huh? We already know it’s from Giuliani, he explained how he got it and even went on a couple of shows to talk about it and display the fabled laptop.

            Where could Bannon possibly figure into it? He doesn’t have those kinds of connections and has proven himself an unreliable ally at the best of times.

            • Strannik says:

              I think a lot of this ”unreliability” and all that is just tactical and strategic deception. I know that both President Trump and Steve Bannon are both readers of Sun Tzu.

              We’ve been at war for a while, war in some fashion, and I’m certain that Trump and Bannon and Giuliani and Erik Prince are well aware of that. And the high stakes involved.

              • Not Tom says:

                I’m not buying it. Not going to dump on Bannon for no reason, not going to dump on anyone who isn’t attacking us, but this “secret friends” business is QAnon-tier conspiratardery and a major source of misdirection and demoralization on the right.

                “Sessions is a good guy, Barr is a bad guy. Bannon is an angel, (((Kushner))) is the devil incarnate. Mad Dog Mattis is going to lead us to victory, Steven Mnuchin is an evil old Goldman-Sachs swamp rat. McMaster is actually running a secret double-agent campaign FOR Trump, Carson and DeVos are just incompetent fools.” I mean, these people are always wrong and never seem to get tired of being wrong.

                So I’m just going to believe what I can see with my own eyes, and what I can see with my own eyes is that Steve Bannon shares a little bit of Trump’s philosophy and doesn’t seem to be actively working against Trump, but he’s got his own agenda that very often does not align with Trump’s or with ours, and pulled Trump into bad news cycles more than once because of his tendency to mouth off to “friends” in the legacy media. I think he’s an okay guy, certainly better than most of the media, but I think Trump cut him loose for a good reason and am not inclined to speculate much beyond that.

                • Strannik says:

                  Bit of a strawman there, in my opinion. I barely know anything of the conspiracy type stuff you’re talking about, but what I do know is this; President Trump had to have had very powerful friends to even make it as far as he has. And both he and his friends just to have made it this far and want to go further, must be aware of the stakes involved, aware on a level you or I would be totally unaware of.

                  This is not a war fought in the open. What we see in the open is like watching the thrashings of sea monsters fighting below the waves, and all we see is just the troubled waters at this point, no blood, yet.

                • Not Tom says:

                  And so from that, you logically conclude that Bannon is pulling strings, when we have a clear timeline of what happened which Bannon does not figure into in any way?

                  What’s step 2 in this 3-step profit plan?

                • The Cominator says:

                  Lets distinguish facts from Q bullshit.

                  Does Trump have a certain amount of dissident elite backing sure.

                  Does this make Q a legitimate source, no.

                  Is Giuliani a formidable guy and one that Trump can trust on this issue, yes. He took down the mob he was probably involved in engineering the Comey announcement last election.

                  Is Bannon an overly reliable guy, not really. Hes done some good but Bannon is kind of an attention whore sometimes. He was talking to the enemy unauthorized for no good reason not necessarily spilling all sorts of secrets but if you talk long enough to the enemy you’ll reveal things…

                • The Infinity Banker says:

                  “QAnon-tier conspiratardery”

                  Wake up, Paul. The Trump PSYOP, the greatest PSYOP of all time, the greatest PSYOP in all of human history, is about to manifest itself in the real world, with the force of a thousand suns.

            • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

              Bannon is enthusiastically pushing the Giuliani material, in part because he will go to jail for decades should a Harris administration DOJ prosecute his bullshit fraud case about the border wall. There is reason to distrust his abilities at execution but think he unreservedly supports Trump here in addition to the self-preservation motive.

              • Pooch says:

                Anyone going to jail if Trump loses is ourguy. I listen to his show often and he’s a staunch supporter of Trump in every way. My only criticism of him is that he has CCP on the brain in the same bizarre way that some on the right (like Anglin) have Jews on the brain.

  37. … andthe Biden “rally” looks like a bunch of middle-class, middle-aged, non-queer, normcore-dressed whites i.e. that not at all that coalition of the fringes the Dems generally count on.

    • Strannik says:

      In a way, they’re attending a wake, the wake of the old Liberal Democratic Party. What comes after could well be that party’s fracturing into pieces and/or restructuring into a vehicle for mass Muslim immigration into America.

      These people are those aging liberal boomers that were hippies back in the day and thought that they’d usher in a ”better” America. They didn’t. Hence the funeral metaphor I used. This Biden/Harris candidacy represents the dashing of their hopes and the mockery of their plans by God.

      • Fred says:

        I remember someone (maybe Jonah Goldberg at NRO) once observing that the 1984 election was the last gasp of the “New Deal coalition”: Mondale was the end of an era (although I’m inclined to say 1988 and Dukakis).

        I get a similar vibe from this election cycle: it’s the last gasp of the Clinton-type neoliberal DNC boomers, the Vietnam-protest demographic who started taking over the party after being BTFO in 1984. Now, say 35-odd years later, they’re on their way out, being replaced (by millennial/Xer wokes) much as they in turn had replaced the New Dealers.

        • Strannik says:

          I agree, I think you’re right. After these people pass on, the Democratic Party will be totally taken over by peak lunacy. And they’ll willingly finish handing over the keys to the kingdom to the Chinese and the Islamists.

        • jatt arya says:

          https://akinokure.blogspot.com/2020/09/realignment-only-after-trumps-2nd-term.html

          spandrell posted link,

          he also has a theory on refractory and excitement cycles for women.
          Wondering jim’s opinion on that?

          https://akinokure.blogspot.com/2020/10/tiktok-trend-late-2000s-revival-scene.html

          • jim says:

            “Face to Face” is detached from reality or plausibility.

            For example, he says industry has not come, steel has not come back, Trump has abandoned his promises of re-industrialization. He is not living in Trump’s america as it actually exists, but in the Trump America prophesied by the Democratic slogan “Those jobs are gone and they are not coming back”.

            He is isolated in a self imposed bubble of delusion and unreality. He notices that no one cares about electing Biden, and concludes that no one cares about electing Trump.

          • awildgoose says:

            Speaking of women, Rollo Tomassi recently theorized that we are witnessing the birth of a global religion headed by women.

            I don’t that’s a bad take at all.

            • Fred says:

              Sounds intuitively right (although I can’t think of anything of Rollo’s I’ve ever disagreed with). Where did he say this?

            • oagsgs says:

              An easy trap to fall into. When we say “women are slaves to their hormones and incapable of leadership” we do not mean “some” women are like that, or that they may change at will. AWALT.

              One of Moldbug’s key insights is that struggles of “the people against elites” never involve “the people” at all, but instead one faction of elites uses “the people” to cover for its war against the other faction.

              The same applies to women. Whenever you see “women” leading something, you can be sure to find handlers behind it.

              Also, “global religion” lol. It’s just Christcucks being BTFO (for now).

            • Dave says:

              Headed by women but not birthed by them. Women don’t build institutions, they infiltrate institutions created by men and turn them into big cuddly empathy-fests while the men go off and find something else to do.

              Women are attracted to male power; men are repulsed by female power. A big chunk of Sweden’s male population lives in Thailand because why fight for a better country when you can just move to one?

  38. info says:

    Long love the bureaucracy saith the bugman:
    https://twitter.com/erikkain/status/1317303944352157696

  39. Mister Grumpus says:

    Now The Russians are hacking the voting machines, I hear.

    I can only guess that now they’re just trying to lose so badly, yet after “polling” so well, that the wide discrepancy “can only be the result of massive fraud” on the R side.

    • jim says:

      I have a more pessimistic interpretation. Whatever bad things the left is doing, it almost reflexively accuses its enemies of doing.

      • Strannik says:

        Absolutely. But recall that Trump’s campaign is aware of this and i’m certain they have instituted counter-measures to mitigate the fraud. Democrats have actually been doing this sort of thing for decades now.

        • pdhvgo says:

          Kennedy stole an election from Nixon. Even Hollywood had to put a lampshade on it.

          • Strannik says:

            Yes, and we somehow made it through that era. But the stakes have gotten higher, ans so we have to be vigilant and do our civic duty as voters.

            • The Cominator says:

              JFK unlike the rest of his family (including the old man who rigged the election) wasn’t a willing traitor or a commie.

              He might have been a reckless hedonistic drug addict but not a traitor and JFK also understood the Laffer principle of taxation in an era when not many people did.

              LBJ the guy he was whacked to install otoh WAS a traitor.

              • Strannik says:

                I have a few ideas about JFK and LBJ and that era, but I tend to keep them more to myself really. We’re still dealing with the consequences of those times, but frankly I don’t think we the American people know much at all of what really happened-least of all those who lived through it!

      • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

        The left generally does this accusing not for things it is merely also-doing, but things it does at industrial scale, several orders of magnitude beyond what any of its competitors could hope to do.

        The more extensive, professional, institutionalized, bureaucratic, auto-piloted, widespread, pervasive and assumed their own conduct is, the easier it is to submerge it into the background of business as usual and not even notice anything happening. In contrast to the appalling violation of norms when the peons slightly to their right so much as attempt to do the same.

        • Not Tom says:

          Peons is exactly the word. This is aristocratic privilege.

          The Opposite Rule of Liberalism is technically true but omits part of the story. They don’t accuse in order to deflect or assuage guilt, they do it because they honestly believe it’s perfectly acceptable for them and unacceptable for their enemies.

          When your team makes the rules, it’s the height of arrogance for the opposing team to complain about you breaking them.

          • sugpca says:

            Just to keep things clear, “aristocratic privilege” is a good thing. Kakistocratic privilege is not.

          • Omar is just a Trump card now. says:

            Yes, but it’s worth getting the meme precisely correct on this.

            The left has literally and exactly what they conjure with the term “white privilege”, only real.

            The privilege of being the default, the norm, the null hypothesis, the imperceptible background against which all else is noticed and (harshly) judged. The privilege of presuming all good people agree, have already agreed and decided on how things are to be, without any discussion ever having taken place.

            For the overt warrior crusader factions such an Antifa or BLM, it is Action Film Hero Privilege, where laws and Commandments can be broken at will with a smile, because “we” all know (by the white privilege null hypothesis) that the hero is doing Good as he kills, steals, hacks, and hijacks his way through the enemy.

            On the opposite side, the literal and exact meme for the status of the right is Jim Crow. The left gets the White facilities (media, universities etc), the right gets second- and third-rate Colored substitutes, with the authorities down their throat on the flimsiest and phoniest pretexts at the first sign of organization or resistance.

            • Not Tom says:

              Sure, call it Prog Privilege if you want.

              I like to conjure up the image of old aristocrats because the more moderate liberals have tremendous antipathy toward the idea of an aristocracy and it’s fun to watch the mental gymnastics of them trying to explain how it’s totally different in their case.

              Gentry is another good term but kind of archaic, a lot of them just don’t get the reference.

            • Oog en Hand says:

              “On the opposite side, the literal and exact meme for the status of the right is Jim Crow.”

              So, the progs will say: “Taste of your own medicine!”

              This, of course, is captain obvious.

      • Plenty of countries are still using paper voting, and not because they are technologically backwards primitives but because of a conscious choice that paper ballots are harder to hack, and being harder to hack, they are also harder to be accused of having been hacked. Both aspects can do a lot of damage to a peaceful transmission of power. The first time I heard about voting machines existing in the US raised an alarm in my mind: why do both parties trust Diebold so much?

  40. […] last time was size of rally audience. Trump is packing them in, whereas Ukraine Joe is speaking to empty parking lots. Rather, he is shouting randomly at […]

  41. The Cominator says:

    I don’t think the Dem schemes will work their minions are too incompetent and I think there is still a margin of fraud.

    https://twitter.com/MichaelFranzese/status/1317535366107209728

    Michael Franzese was probably the biggest earner for the mafia (at least from things other than drugs) since Al Capone and he has to worry the government could still harass him because they never recovered most of his gas tax money. I don’t think he would say this unless he knew for sure based on information he has that Biden was doomed.

    He certainly knows 1st hand not to underestimate Giuliani.

    • Not Tom says:

      There’s no such thing as a “margin of fraud”. What are you actually trying to say?

      • The Cominator says:

        Theoretically the Democrats could say that Biden won with 10000% of the vote realistically though there is a margin that is probably less than 10% of the vote they can swing…

        What I said is Franzese is still potentially a target of fedgov harassment for lost gas tax money… he wouldn’t come out for Trump unless he knew for sure Biden was doomed. Hes a pretty savvy guy…

        • Not Tom says:

          Voter turnout is usually a tiny percentage in any precinct so they can just say there was historic voter turnout and they all voted Dem. Will that make sense when compared to new voter registrations? No, but only the fringes like us pay attention to that.

          I suppose you’re intimating that the actual vote tallies will show Republicans with too much of a lead to bridge with fake votes. But remember, the margins in swing states can actually be extremely small, and they can also mysteriously lose Republican absentee ballots (which is why Trump is saying to vote in person). And most importantly, they can simply report whatever made-up vote counts they please through the legacy media megaphone, and social media will suppress any objections.

          You’re looking at this from the point of view of neutral vote-counters who simply allow fake ballots to be counted. But you’re not considering the possibility that actual counts are completely ignored and new ones are made up and substituted in their place. Who can prove that the counts are false, if state governors and election officials participate?

          It doesn’t have to be a grand conspiracy and doesn’t have to be in every state. Just a few people, maybe a few dozen people, in a few key states. The media shills will automatically know what to do, which messages to amplify and which ones to bury.

          After the election, if Trump remains in power through either peaceful or not peaceful means, then we may discover the truth about what happened. Then again, maybe not; Russiagate/Obamagate was 4 years ago and we’re just starting to really get all the facts, and it’s still only the fringes who are paying attention. The average boomer knows Trumprussiaputinhackers was bullshit but has no idea how the sausage was actually made. There is plenty of opportunity for fraud.

          • The Cominator says:

            “You’re looking at this from the point of view of neutral vote-counters who simply allow fake ballots to be counted. But you’re not considering the possibility that actual counts are completely ignored and new ones are made up and substituted in their place.”

            They can do this in some Democrat cities and have been doing it since probably the 1960s but its questionable whether they can extend this to areas they don’t already have complete control over.

            If there plan was to change votes online using the “niggergate” flaw 4chan beat them to it.

            If there plan was to use mail ins that is probably if anything backfiring on them as mail ins are being thrown out in droves and Trump’s base is overwhelmingly going to vote in person.

            I firmly believe that a margin of fraud still exists but we shall see, I suppose Biden can win Florida because of an unexpected 6 gorillion votes from Broward county for Biden.

            • Pooch says:

              Does not matter if they can win or not. They are going to announce victory and when Trump pushes back against that claim they’ll frame the ensuing post-election mail vote chaos as Trump “suppressing the vote”. Then, they’ll launch Color Revolution.

              • Strannik says:

                I have the suspicion that things won’t get to that point. Can’t say why exactly I feel that way, but I figure it would be like watching sausage being made-you really don’t want to know, but you’ll like the finished product.

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