In favor of taking the left on helicopter rides to the Pacific

Trump is our leader, and Trump plans to do this in accord with the spirit of the constitution, which is to say, without helicopter rides to the Pacific. Maybe it can be made to work that way, and if can be made to work that way, its our duty to make it work that way.

But the left really are hateful horrible thoroughly nasty people. Notice for example that servants of the Clintons have a remarkable rate of “suicide” and “accidental” death. I rather think therefore it cannot be made to work that way, that helicopter rides are going to be needed. If you allow commies freedom of speech, you wind up without freedom of speech.

There are a lot of highly intelligent really nice people on the left, for example Scott Aaronson and Scott Alexander, who pat themselves on the back about their wonderful commitment to civil discourse and how they quietly disapprove of the worst extremes of Social Justice Warriors. But they refuse to hear anything that anyone to the right of them says, and refuse to engage in in intelligent rational discussion those to the right of them, instead engaging in casual, thoughtless and ignorant demonization. Their niceness manifests as willingness to be literally cuckolded, rather than willingness to notice that the US was backing the genocide the Alawites and the Tutsis, or willingness to engage in intelligent civilized conversation with their intelligent and civilized opponents, because to engage in intelligent civilized conversation with their intelligent and civilized opponents would involve thoughtcrime. There was a time when Scott Alexander would converse to those to his right, but he, and the entire left, have stopped doing so, probably due to the ever expanding definition of thoughtcrime. The entire left has shut down any conversation with the entire right, for fear of thought contamination.

If you will not talk, it is going to be war sooner or later.

If someone just flat refuses to talk to me or talk to anyone like me, he is an enemy. So genuine unironic Nazis are not enemies, merely friends that are mistaken about socialism and the role of Jews. They will talk with me in a civilized rational fashion, so seem unlikely to murder me. Theoretically they will murder Moldbug but they really just do not seem like the kind of people who would murder Moldbug. As soon as someone like Moldbug turns up, I figure they would turn into merely ironic Nazis. But the left will not talk with me except under my moderate prog identities, nor with anyone like me. Not even the high IQ and supposedly moderate and reasonable left, those that think themselves the sane, smart, and moderate left. Which makes resolution of conflicts impossible, and in the long run, war inevitable. In the long run, they are going to wind up unintentionally blundering into trying to kill the people that they have intemperately demonized and will not hear, and the people that they have demonized and that they will not hear will try to kill them.

And, given that war seems inevitable, we would be foolish to start the salami slicer on the unironic nazis. The cuckservative collapse occurred because in an endlessly unsuccessful effort to make themselves acceptable to the left they read one faction after another out of the conservative movement, as racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, whatever, until there was hardly anyone remaining, until the salami slicer had consumed most of the salami.

I recently read how Nixon was supposedly a terrible horrible opponent of affirmative action. In actual fact Nixon enormously expanded affirmative action. He just did not go quite as far in making dissent from affirmative action a crime as some people wanted – which oversight was swiftly remedied by the justice department in a series of consent decrees, wherein employees committing thought crime constitutes proof of discrimination. Affirmative action under Nixon was the salami slicer moving into high gear, and recent events are the salami slicer running short of salami.

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36 Responses to “In favor of taking the left on helicopter rides to the Pacific”

  1. Alrenous says:

    http://www.george-orwell.org/Revenge_is_Sour/0.html

    Bureaucrats worship power, and if the mandate of heaven truly settles firmly on the right, their highly refined crimestop powers will all swing in that direction. Trump was the rightful ruler and we always believed he was. Maybe two actual rides would be necessary to demonstrate said mandate.

  2. Ryan C says:

    Most people don’t murder people anyway. They value obedience to the law of the land.

  3. Learner says:

    Congratulations on the Trump victory! In the history of geopolitics, what is truly remarkable about the US is that it has only been in civil war for 4 years; the rest of the time, it was in pseudo-democratic peace. I say “pseudo-democratic” because, of course, 19th-century USA would not qualify as a democracy by today’s standards. This American exceptionalism could still survive, but I think we may be seeing a return to the “geopolitical mean” in US governance quality, with the “geopolitical mean” being, of course, banana-republican standards: a succession of periods of dictatorship, pseudo-democracy and civil strife. Your post today, with its war-like, pro-genocide overtones, seems to confirm this. I hope you know what you did when electing Trump; or, rather, I hope you didn’t know what you did when electing Trump.

    • jim says:

      I voted for peace. The alternative to Trump is war.

      War may come anyway. Defeat may come anyway.

      • Learner says:

        It’s your right to vote for whomever you want. But don’t get it wrong: there are always more than two alternatives, especially if you take a long-term view. Clinton was (neo-con) war, indeed. But defending an ideological-based genocide with helicopter rides is not exactly peace. We’ll see. Interesting times ahead.

        • jim says:

          War is easy, peace is hard. War is what happens unless both sides take effective measures to avoid war.

          Some wars, many wars, happen because one or both parties misjudge the strength and will of the other. And some wars happen because one side just is not capable of peace.

        • viking says:

          theres three options voice [compromise] the left will not even allow it to be discussed, Exit [theres no where left to go and again the cathedral has mde clear exiters will be hunted down and drones anywhere in the world] and the third choice is WAR. the NRX deludes itself it can build a multicultural cognitive elite space patch before they are ground up into soylent pajama boy, the alt riech thinks the world is rip for voice if only one can shout heil hitler loud enough to be heard over the cathedral the response will be answered.Scott alexander etal wont speak to us because they grokked it they got that we are right and they saw that the implications are gruesome they can not face that if we follow our reason billions must be eliminated one way or another they cant deal they are not men.and neither are the masses i seriously doubt many in the shitposters really get the implications of reality.those that do are often true commies and yes as vxxxc once said they will admit nothing until you have a gun to your head frankly i think even then they will also invite you to pull the trigger.
          if the left resorts to violence as it has already begun more surgical and yet educational vilolence should be inflicted back in such a way that jow sixpack says right on

        • pdimov says:

          People who want war don’t bother with helicopter rides.

  4. TheBigH says:

    The left is certainly doubling down on attacking Trump supporters. Soros is trying to provoke a war in the streets.

    • jim says:

      This astonishes me, and falsifies my prediction that he would instantly capitulate.

      I should refrain from attempting to predict the actions of individuals.

      • Koanic says:

        They believe. r/ is cowed through violence.

      • Cavalier says:

        If you’re anything like me, the existence of a Satanist cult of semen cocktails, child rape, and human sacrifice at the highest levels of our government is throwing your mental models of the world for a loop.

        I’m having to consider all sorts of things that have become a whole lot more plausible: was the Federal Reserve established by these people, what about Camp David, the Rothschild probably really are the puppetmasters’ puppetmasters (I posted a photo the other day of the Rothschild patriarch and David Rockefeller, and David was clearly the junior partner in the relationship), and so on.

        I’d bet good money that Soros is a step below Rockefeller who is a step below Rothschild. I wonder if Rothschild is a step below someone else. The Royal Family? The really old families from Venice or Rome?

        Fuck, anything is possible.

      • viking says:

        his game is to frame the no mandate, the usual propose something far far left then offer to settle the reasonable middle.and he knows trumps desperate for love

      • Steve Johnson says:

        I think this is a consequence of having misread the attitudes on display in the wikileaks mails.

        Your interpretation was that Soros was being deferential to Podesta, et al. where I think in context the reverse was true. The mails about Soros that I read were in the context of him doing things like hosting fund raisers in his apartment – him doing favors for them.

        This is part of how they get along – during a campaign, Soros is needed for funding and support. Between campaigns he needs them for insider information (which we know happens at least some of the time because of a forwarded email from Hillary to Chelsea about the Greek debt crisis when Chelsea’s husband runs a hedge fund that traded Greek debt) and political pull on turning bad debt into good debt and I expect that he’s deferential to them then.

        Maybe Soros is reacting in favor mode to them still? Send the message “look Trump, we can make things unpleasant for you if you dig too deeply into the Clinton Foundation”? Sending a signal to the rest of the left not to start a preference cascade where they hang the Clintons out to dry? Sending a signal to the rest of the left that whoever wants to take over the Clinton role of directing slush funds should work with him because he can still do things like organize demonstrations in multiple cities in a day? (I like the last one, actually)

      • lalit says:

        Jim, I think we should wait. Perhaps Soros wants some sort of bargaining chip to deal with Trump. He’s probably trying to show Trump his power. Remember Trump is not yet in charge. So we must wait until Trump shows everyone who is in charge. And to show that, he has to make a big move to the right (prediction # 5). Let’s wait and watch.

        Besides Soros is just one individual in the game, albeit a very powerful one. Unless Soros is breaking ranks with the rest of his Buddies, prediction Soros is prediction what the cathedral will do next. I say we wait and watch until April. Let Trump make his first move and then let is see what is Soros’ next move.

        I will Log this in as your 6th prediction and I will resist calling it one way or the other until we find out what happens with Prediction #5, i.e with Trump’s big Rightist/reactionary move.

        Prediction # 6: If prediction #5 (the big rightist move) comes to pass, then Soros will instantly capitulate

  5. vxxc2014 says:

    “They will talk with me in a civilized rational fashion, so seem unlikely to murder me. ”

    WARNING: The Actual Murderers will be quiet but very polite. Killers are.

    • jim says:

      Rational murderers who kill for practical reasons are quiet and polite. I am worried about collective insanity.

      At present the left is engaging in high drama as to how we are going to persecute them, even though all the actual persecutions occurring at present and for the last several decades are leftists persecuting real or imaginary rightists. They are likely to talk themselves into “self defense”, meaning escalated persecution of rightists even while our guy is in charge of the military, which will necessitate that we actually persecute them.

    • Theshadowedknight says:

      The left does not really expect at this point to have to murder us. They are used to yelling, screaming, and roughing a few people up to get what they want. Real resistance has been scarce, so they are responding to a volatile situation with their typical mindless violence. What they are apt to do is push the quiet killers into a corner by accident, then be shocked when the killers make a break for it.

      The Shadowed Knight

  6. jon dough says:

    This.

    3 of my sibs are off the charts in their imagined torture within a Trump administration. Old farts all (I’m 60), I have no illusions of them prepping their younger minions for preemptive self defense.

    If it comes to it, when it comes to it, I’m prepared to deal with the Old Yeller(s).

  7. Pepe minion says:

    “If you will not talk, it is going to be war sooner or later.”

    Yes; and they won’t talk. Hillary won the popular vote. Fraud notwithstanding, that is a powerful omen from which the enemy is right to take comfort.

    Trump’s victory is like a sick man turning over in bed who gains temporary relief but no change in the progress of his disease. Absent heroic measures, that we shall not see, the election of a new people won’t be reversed. Trump buys time but no more.

    That time would be well spent organizing underground in such media as tor or i2p. I agree with William Briggs http://wmbriggs.com/post/20004/ that the existence of open dissent will not be tolerated for much longer.

  8. viking says:

    One week ago, when the prospect of a Trump presidency was “calculated” as being anywhere between 0% and 20% by so-called experts, we reported that Trump’s campaign finance chair, Goldman Sachs partner and Soros Fund management alum, Steven Mnuchin, was being positioned for something much larger as Donald Trump reportedly told his aides today that he wants Mnuchin to serve as his Treasury Secretary.

    Now, according to CNBC, Trump has decided to expand beyond just Goldman alumni, and is allegedly considering JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon as the next US Treasury Secretary.

    BREAKING: Trump advisers considering $JPM CEO Dimon for Treasury post – sources https://t.co/Unij5oIyNe pic.twitter.com/TezAC3aOn0
    — CNBC (@CNBC) November 10, 2016
    Needless to say, we can only hope that this is an attempt to scare clicks by CNBC instead of the actual truth, because if Trump hopes that he can “drain a swamp” by hiring the swamp puppet master, he – and millions of his supporters – will be very disappointed.

    As for Dimon, or Mnuchin, they will be delighted: as a reminder, as Hank Paulson demonstrated so well, the only reason why bankers become Treasury Secretaries, is to be allowed to sell all their corporate stock upon moving to public office, tax free.

    That said, as CNBC also adds, Dimon passed on the opportunity: “In the wake of Donald Trump’s upset victory, advisors have floated the idea of naming Jamie Dimon as treasury secretary, according to two people familiar with the matter, but one of them added that the JPMorgan chief has said he would not be interested in the role.”

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    • jim says:

      He is signaling horrifying levels of being nice to the elites – but remember, he is not president yet.

      And indeed, even after he is officially president, it will take at least six weeks, probably longer, to get a firm grip on the handles of power.

      When he has power, then we will know.

  9. Alan J. Perrick says:

    If anti-whites cluster together, they’re easier to find and identify. They want to be examples to one another, so let them do so after White Genocide reparations have been instituted. As penniless examples of what happens to barmy traitors, they’ll find their usefulness.

    A.J.P.

  10. peppermint says:

    Commies can be trusted with freedom of speech. They didn’t defeat us by convincing us with arguments, they won by taking over institutions, in particular churches and universities, which have always rejected the notion of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is how we figured out what’s going on and won as much as we have.

    And yeah, there’s no reason to kill Moldbug. He’s at least 50% White and well connected here, so I would be in favor of letting him declare himself as the slave of one of his White friends. Also who knows, maybe he does pass the Anglin threshold of 88%. And if he doesn’t want to stay in this country, we are going through a yuge upheval after all, there are a number of safe countries for him to go to, such as Israel or Russia.

  11. peppermint says:

    I know so many intelligent men who even after the election continue to lie about the meaning of Trump’s “grab ’em by the pussy” speech. It’s disgusting, and pretty blackpilling. Blanket party time can’t come soon enough.

  12. Zach says:

    So perhaps it should be changed to:

    No enemies to the right, potential non-enemies to the left.

  13. jack arcalon says:

    Never underestimate the power of conformity.

    People aren’t really offended by extremist opinions that don’t target them directly, they just respond the way their betters expect them to.

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